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I have an interview coming up in a

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minute with russ dizdar this is gonna be

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a tough one for a lot of folks for a lot

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of different reasons here are some clips

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I was in Worthington OHIO at the police

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academy called Okada a law enforcement

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agent named Thomas wedge who wrote a

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book called the Satan hunter for law

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enforcement so I'm going through all of

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get a phone call from a frantic woman

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who said somebody gave me your phone

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number I have a stepdaughter it's in the

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psych ward she's gonna kill herself her

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mother's doing she goes into all the

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stores about satanic stuff and rituals

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and blood rituals and animals being

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sacrificed and I sat down with a

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thirteen-year-old she's there because

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she keeps writing over and over and over

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at the ritual of the flames the ritual

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of the flames the ritual of the flames

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when I finally got enough engagement

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with her to talk about it she said it's

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a ritual that she has to do on her 14th

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birthday to prove her love for her

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mother her mother a satanic priestess so

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victim this this little girl as I'm

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engaging her began to have other

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personalities come up again you know I'm

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a counselor I'm trained I'm in school

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to this thirteen-year-old that I'm

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listening to a male personality then I'm

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listening to another personality why is

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that so hard to accept for most people

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what and moreover why is it completely

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misrepresented in the media first I

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would say the first part of this is the

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issue of grid in the when you talk about

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investigative journalists that I deal

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with psychiatrists police officers feds

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if it's not in your grid in other words

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if you're trying to deal with ms-13 a

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gang they're real they're real gang

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they're a drug gang they're in my city

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now up here in Canton Ohio they have

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certain clothing so there's certain

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characteristics about a real gang so

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when we deal with satanic crimes the

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very little teaching on that subject and

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I want to make sure we talk about

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mkultra you've thrown it out there we've

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investigated it extensively on this show

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it was in response to what they thought

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was a threat from Russia who was engaged

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in a lot of this activity but there was

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also as you point out and I'm sure you

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will there was a direct Nazi connection

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or we had just picked up their research

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and said gee horrible thing that you've

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done but let's see if we can do it

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Alex you're a million percent right on

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that issue when it comes to Sai warriors

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no question about the United States knew

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that they had to do something in the 50s

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to counteract the what they learned

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about the Russians what they were doing

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what nobody was saying though that step

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back like you just did step back another

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step where did the Russians get it where

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do the Americans get it so you do go

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back to the Nazis I mean you don't have

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to go all the way there with the Nazis

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but you can't deny that they were

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interested in they are cold you can't

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deny that those SS uniforms had the

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little skull and crossbones on them and

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they were and that they were actively

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trying to seek all these occult objects

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in order to empower what they would do

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tell us what you saw and experienced

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when you were in the castle in Germany

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well that's that was the whole issue

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where did it come from that we just we

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kept following the trail follow the

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evidence so I'll say this real quick

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modern-day sagina commercial abuse is

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nothing less than the extension of the

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agenda of the master race there's an

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Ozzy started in 1939 stay with us for

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welcome to skeptical where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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I'm your host Alex Icarus and as you may

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know by now if you've listened to this

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show very much lately you know I've been

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kind of into the evil thing and I gotta

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tell you you know it's not because I

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have any special interest or attraction

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to the topic it's just it seems to me to

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nature of who we are why we why we're

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here the whole consciousness question

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scientific dogma that would have us

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completely sidestep any of these

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exist good doesn't exist because

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heard from magic practitioners who

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that we're going to cover today is

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talking to someone who claims to kind of

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one that we're going to talk about today

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the black awakening and maybe some of

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those other books you can hear him on

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Russ welcome to skeptical thanks for

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good to be with the Alex pace appreciate

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being here today ok today I left some

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life well all I could tell you Alex that

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scene and it's a crime scene and there's

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that you've had that this is something

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satanic panic which is what always comes

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sickening panic and you know there was a

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of victims of satanic ritual abuse now

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this is you know we know about Satanism

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them hiding them out we get into talking

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hours with victims so on just a secular

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look at this the American Psychological

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Association : Ross being one of the

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world renowned psychiatrist out of

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Canada he's now in the United States

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you're at a book project Bluebird the

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purposeful creation of multiple

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personality disorder and there's a lot

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of there's a ton of books now there's a

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lot of content out there now here's what

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we got to do here's a big question that

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I I scream at at conferences when I did

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teach a little bit in law enforcement

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police academies the big issue was where

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did all the victims come from you cannot

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have a person have

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personality that called everybody in

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psychology knows it comes from massive

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trauma and usually begins in childhood

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so where did all of the numbers like for

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example 1992 Holly Hector from

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Centennial Hospital in Denver in a book

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called Satan associates they gave an

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estimation of 2.4 million victims in

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1992 and these are people that have the

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trauma-based splitting of personalities

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and the evidence of programming and

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control abuses she mentioned in her

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report in 1992 that 87 percent of the

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victims they're dealing with

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come from a satanic ritual abuse

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background

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well then jump forward 10 years or so to

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call it let's let's stop right there cuz

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I want you to kind of nail that down a

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little bit more it's an important where

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you're going is super important and it's

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it's backed up by some of the research

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we've done in this show from a [\h__\h] on

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Christian perspective I am NOT a

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Christian I like I told you in the email

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I accept the reality of extended

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consciousness and Christ consciousness

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only because I'm forced to because

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that's where the data leads you follow

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near-death experience people are

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encountering Jesus they're encountering

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Christ you can't dismiss that in the

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same way that you can't dismiss the

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entire near-death experience but I don't

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want to get off on my thing sure but but

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I also want to kind of say that this

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trauma based realization of this

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extended realm in connection with this

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extended realm is again something we've

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run across again and again and again in

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our investigations again from a

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non-christian perspective so there's a

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lot of overlay there but I'm hoping you

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can maybe back up Russ and you know

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you've done this for so long you've been

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this warrior on the front line helping

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people so no matter what people think of

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the Christian overlay I want to help

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people get more of a sense of what

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you've seen on firsthand Bay

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is like you said maybe from more of a

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secular perspective where you said wow

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this is just this is just undeniable no

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matter what I might think about this

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this is really happening

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sure I mean it again in in that's that's

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that's one of the questions we all have

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to answer regardless of any background

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and and and as much as we dealt with

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psychiatrists psychologists with no

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Christian overlay when I'm in law

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enforcement they don't want me to talk

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anything about religion when I'm

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teaching me a police academy when they

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allowed me to you you know don't talk

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about that just deal with evidence and

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facts and and how to investigate this

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stuff so the big the big issue is again

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victims why are there so many victims

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where do they come from why are there

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thousands in the 80s hundreds of

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thousands in the 90s and I do agree with

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the assessment that many others in the

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second Darrell not us I'm quoting

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secular content when I say they now

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believe : Ross the secular counselor a

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psychiatrist he's world renowned knowing

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about all this he's written a lot about

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this numerous books he believes in an

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assessment of ten million victims in the

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United States alone now I could talk

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about going to Scotland Germany France

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Poland Canada I could talk about how why

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are they worldwide were the poskim there

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and all these other continents also

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where do they come from the DSM three

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the diagnostic manual the DSM 4 the

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diagnostic manual for psychology and

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psychiatry it wasn't in there the DSM 1

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and 2 the phenomena began to pour in the

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late 70s victims began to show up

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everywhere and that's what happened to

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us in the early 80s victims my first

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victim I had to show up at a children's

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Psychiatric Center a thirteen-year-old

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girl she's writing she has all these

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drawings that she's showing me she's

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there because they're afraid she's gonna

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commit suicide because she keeps writing

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over and over and over at the ritual of

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the flames the ritual of the flames

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original of the flames when I finally

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got enough engagement with her to talk

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about

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she said it's a ritual that she has to

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do on her 14th birthday to prove her

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love for her mother her mother a satanic

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priestess I've engaged her I looked at

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all the writings the the pyramid the

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languages that we don't even know of

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ancient languages so I'm looking at

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things that I've never seen this is like

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1981 to 82 83 and East in these early

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days I'm looking at content and

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materials that I've not seen that we all

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of us hadn't had to scurry around and

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scour everywhere for information so

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victim this this little girl as I'm

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engaging her began to have other

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personalities come up again you know I'm

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a counselor I'm trained I'm in school

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I'm trained to do things I'm listening

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to this thirteen-year-old that I'm

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listening to a male personality then I'm

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listening to another personality can I

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ask you what what brought you to the

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hospital paint that scene for a minute

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why are you called who are you at that

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point and then pick it up from there

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sure I was in Worthington OHIO

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at the police academy called Okada a a

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law enforcement agent named Thomas wedge

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who wrote a book called the Satan hunter

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for law enforcement caliber press was

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for law enforcement

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he kind of snuck us in under the carpet

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to be in the police academy to go

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through this training advanced training

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roll call CD into crimes so I'm going

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through all of this the very evening

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that I get home I get a phone call from

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a frantic woman who said somebody gave

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me your phone number I have a

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stepdaughter it's in the psych ward

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she's gonna kill herself

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her mother's doing she goes into all the

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stores about satanic stuff and rituals

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and blood rituals and animals being

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sacrificed the two brothers are involved

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so she's the one that begged me to go to

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the psych ward there in Akron Children's

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psych ward and I just saw so I did I

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just went to the psych ward they got

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they had somehow get gotten permission

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for me to come in and I sat down with a

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thirteen-year-old in it you know that

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that engagement back then has

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to this very day I still know that

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person and we work with that person so I

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can go so when you say that you've

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worked with victims I just want to make

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sure that people understand it anyone in

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that situation particular you coming

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from a law enforcement you know that's

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your training that's going to be your

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career I mean that's just kind of real

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stuff that I want people to understand

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when you say victims what do you do with

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that evidence and and I guess that's a

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follow-on question what additional cases

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did you have and now you're coming to

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the point where you're training other

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law enforcement or you were in the past

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training other law enforcement

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professionals how to deal with this

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number one what do you tell them and

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then number two I get the sense that

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they don't really want you to do that

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training anymore so how is that all

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evolved well that you're right Alex

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rightfully right on that because I talk

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about it not being in the grid even when

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it comes to psychics psychiatrists

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psychologists most of them and for

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30-some years psychologists

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psychiatrists have been taking in

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victims would that have they now called

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EIG dissociative identity disorder they

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they all they all have dealt with this

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they have all across the United States

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every psych ward councillor

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psychiatrists they've all dealt with

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this for over 30 years you can't deny

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the numbers you get deny the victims the

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issue is when they start telling you

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stories of being in boxes with spiders

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and being you know blood and a baby and

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altar and people in hoods and and

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candles and strange languages and

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they'll talk even about the dark side

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demons and all that so the issue is

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police officers that's the name crews in

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the Academy and and you can go through

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25 criminology books training books of

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forensic psychology books textbooks I I

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collect them there's no grid Alex

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there's they don't they don't teach all

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the officers that I know that when we've

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gotten into cases and we've taken

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content to those officers to federal

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officers

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the it's bizarre to them and the issue

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is then how do you investigate this when

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you take a Jeffrey Dahmer and you do

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catch him he did kill those people but

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nobody brought out the fact that he was

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multiple personality nobody brought out

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the fact that he had an alter bill out

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of human thigh bones in his in his

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apartment where he killed all those

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people nobody brought out the fact that

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he did this he had a power cone the

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shape of a triangle of human skulls

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where you conjure here's what that

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here's what the trainer in the law

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enforcement told us tom wedge he told

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all the law-enforcement people don't

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worry about what you know is whatever

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you believe whatever your background

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Christian non-christian whatever it is

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the point is they believe it's real

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that's what matters

519
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they believe that's a really important

520
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point there's so many points to pull

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apart there one also just correct me if

522
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I'm wrong but Dahmer directly said he

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was in contact with spiritual beings

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that were telling him to do this stuff

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and I think he also said his father had

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similar contact and that's and that's

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the point that's what I'm saying in the

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investigative side of this there's no

529
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what we call I call a web if I meet

530
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today if I meet a satanic ritual abuse

531
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person if they're 21 years old here's

532
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what I knew already

533
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they are third generation it means that

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they have family background where

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there's other multiples they have a

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grandmother that's probably been

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multiple also in in you know involved in

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all this it because it's generational

539
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I'm talking to five years of this when

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we meet victims I don't care if it's an

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eight-year-old in a psych ward now in a

542
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children's psych ward or I meet a if I

543
00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:16,050
meet a 68 year old with which is

544
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:18,750
first-generation many of them are the MK

545
00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:21,600
ULTRA the monarch those are the ones

546
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:24,270
that we have heard about the most in on

547
00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:26,850
the web and books and things I could

548
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:28,620
talk about the the Fort Bragg side

549
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:31,290
warrior we're gonna talk about that in

550
00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:33,510
in it I'm gonna bring it back though to

551
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:35,940
something else that you just said and

552
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:38,010
I'm not just interrupting you for the

553
00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:40,050
sake of ripping you that some people

554
00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:42,840
accuse it's something interesting that I

555
00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:45,480
want to make sure people get from your

556
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:47,460
experience with law enforcement what I

557
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:50,250
heard you say is that

558
00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:52,170
there's physical evidence that they have

559
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:54,900
to deal with she walk into a crime scene

560
00:24:00,860 --> 00:23:57,570
there's an inverted Pentagon there's

561
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:00,870
blood ritual circle all this stuff you

562
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:04,080
can't get past that so one of the things

563
00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:06,330
you do this is what you're telling me is

564
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:09,000
you say well it doesn't matter if

565
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:11,970
there's a reality to it these people

566
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:13,890
think there's a reality to it and I have

567
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:16,320
to deal with that but then what you said

568
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:18,690
and I've heard this before to people who

569
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:21,330
listen to the show isn't it if we get

570
00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:25,130
past that kind of narrowly minded

571
00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:27,750
atheistic kind of there's no reality to

572
00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:29,790
any of this stuff and we start listening

573
00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:32,460
to these people they say oh no it's real

574
00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:36,030
in that I have this contact with this

575
00:24:40,940 --> 00:24:38,670
extended realm that's telling me to do

576
00:24:44,270 --> 00:24:40,950
this and then there's even evidence of

577
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:44,280
them making contact with that so what

578
00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:48,630
what is what is this whole thing why do

579
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:51,390
we get such misinformation and

580
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:55,290
disinformation about this if this is if

581
00:25:01,310 --> 00:24:58,530
not common at least understood to be

582
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:01,320
part of law enforcement and you know

583
00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:02,490
we've interviewed some folks on this

584
00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:06,780
show then why is that so hard to accept

585
00:25:12,530 --> 00:25:09,630
for most people what in moreover why is

586
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:12,540
it completely misrepresented in the

587
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:14,490
media first I would say the first part

588
00:25:18,980 --> 00:25:17,310
of this is the issue of grid in the when

589
00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:18,990
you talk about investigative journalists

590
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:20,790
that I deal with psychiatrists police

591
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:23,640
officers feds if it's not in your grid

592
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:25,890
in other words if you're trying to deal

593
00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:27,930
with ms-13 a gang they're real they're

594
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:30,060
real gang they're a drug gang they're in

595
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,510
my city now up here in Canton Ohio they

596
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:35,360
have certain markings certain hand signs

597
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:38,340
certain clothing so there's certain

598
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:40,230
characteristics about a real gang and

599
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:43,470
and law enforcement has to alert that

600
00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:44,730
that's why they have a gang unit they

601
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,230
had a drug unit they got a Sex Crimes

602
00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:49,080
Unit the pedophile sets off the wall -

603
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:53,070
so when we deal with satanic crimes very

604
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:55,290
little teaching on that subject if they

605
00:26:00,680 --> 00:25:56,970
go to a location where there's a rain

606
00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:00,690
and candles and a inverted pentagram and

607
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:02,870
ancient writing that they leave

608
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,290
what it is malakian could be in Agua

609
00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:09,200
delta shari these ancient ritual

610
00:26:13,630 --> 00:26:12,230
languages at summon so again forget

611
00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:13,640
about the spiritual side for a moment

612
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:14,990
let's just deal with trace evidence

613
00:26:20,650 --> 00:26:18,170
let's just deal with forensic you know

614
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:20,660
that that that kind of evidence so you

615
00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:22,910
got a Dahmer you got dead bodies you got

616
00:26:28,450 --> 00:26:23,540
meat

617
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:28,460
but what they didn't tell you in all of

618
00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:31,220
the all of the documentaries even the

619
00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:32,360
newest one that I've because I've

620
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,280
watched them all when I learned when I

621
00:26:38,919 --> 00:26:36,320
was at Def Tech a SWAT team training in

622
00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:38,929
Geneva Ohio when Tom weds the law

623
00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:40,580
enforcement agent brought in the actual

624
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:44,540
large books from madam Morris and also

625
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:47,330
from from Jeffrey Dahmer's inside the

626
00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:50,330
house the crime-scene pictures they

627
00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:52,340
didn't they didn't know what to do with

628
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:54,620
an altar what they didn't know what that

629
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:56,210
was like a little table bill out of

630
00:27:01,540 --> 00:26:58,610
human thigh bones they didn't know what

631
00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:01,550
that triangle was with the skulls what

632
00:27:06,669 --> 00:27:04,280
is that so here's what I tell them when

633
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:06,679
I met was in even even in the last year

634
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:08,630
meeting with detectives in Pennsylvania

635
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:11,330
fed individuals state troopers here's

636
00:27:17,549 --> 00:27:14,120
what I tell them it what they believe

637
00:27:19,390 --> 00:27:17,559
goes to the motivation of the crime

638
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:19,400
forget whether you believe there's a

639
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:22,070
saint or not they believe it that's

640
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:24,460
their motivation to slaughter and kill

641
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,730
we have cases of two girls I have a Fed

642
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:30,320
billboard picture on our website we put

643
00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:32,510
up a lot of Sarah and Kathy that's our

644
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:35,780
case it has been taken over eventually

645
00:27:37,870 --> 00:27:37,490
by the feds they've never solved the

646
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:37,880
case

647
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:39,290
even though we turned over state's

648
00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:42,890
evidence the Fed the the primary Fed now

649
00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:46,070
over that case out of Pennsylvania out

650
00:27:50,850 --> 00:27:49,100
of Pittsburgh his whole issue was but

651
00:27:53,410 --> 00:27:50,860
Russ that's bizarre

652
00:27:55,450 --> 00:27:53,420
one of the other cases in in Allenstown

653
00:27:57,310 --> 00:27:55,460
a little boy went missing the whole

654
00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:57,320
story of a victim we took there after 10

655
00:28:02,110 --> 00:27:59,570
years of cooperating the stories and all

656
00:28:03,970 --> 00:28:02,120
that they could not they could not when

657
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:03,980
when they sat for four hours to

658
00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:05,870
interrogate the victim that watched a

659
00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:09,590
little boy be sexually abused richly cut

660
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:13,460
you know killed cannibalized the boys

661
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:15,320
never been found to this day I think

662
00:28:19,390 --> 00:28:16,610
some 15 16 years

663
00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:19,400
later his name's Louis the detective

664
00:28:23,770 --> 00:28:21,470
after all of us said he could not deny

665
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:23,780
what she had to say here's what he said

666
00:28:28,539 --> 00:28:24,320
Alex

667
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:28,549
they detective on the case it's just too

668
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:31,490
bizarre so this is why I'm saying that

669
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:34,910
the the grid when when you're gonna

670
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:37,130
investigate a crime what's the

671
00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:37,970
motivation

672
00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:40,400
what about Berkowitz the processed

673
00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:42,920
Church what about what about John Wayne

674
00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:44,840
Gacy and Ted Bundy both of them being

675
00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:46,940
multiple where did they get those other

676
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:49,190
personalities hold on let me just make

677
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:51,740
sure everyone understands what you're

678
00:28:56,530 --> 00:28:53,750
saying you say the grid because what I

679
00:29:00,120 --> 00:28:56,540
hear you saying is that people get

680
00:29:02,919 --> 00:29:00,130
locked into a certain belief system that

681
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:02,929
literally makes it impossible for them

682
00:29:09,610 --> 00:29:06,160
to in this case do their job or take in

683
00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:09,620
information just in an objective way

684
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,750
that's that's what you mean right

685
00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:13,520
yeah yeah because I've been atheist like

686
00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:16,100
when I was in Scotland not too long this

687
00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:18,860
is like this last year in a ritual abuse

688
00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:20,840
conference there you do have strong

689
00:29:25,450 --> 00:29:23,270
atheist nowadays not a lot of them but

690
00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:25,460
like they just discard all of this none

691
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:28,030
of this is true so when we say to them

692
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:30,530
what do you do with the victims what

693
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:32,450
about the ritual sites what about the

694
00:29:36,730 --> 00:29:35,150
symbolism again in law enforcement if

695
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:36,740
they don't know what an inverted

696
00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:39,710
pentagram is or a pinnacle a pinnacle is

697
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:42,740
witchcraft and Pagan an inverted

698
00:29:47,860 --> 00:29:43,370
pentagram

699
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:47,870
that's satanic certain writings you if

700
00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:50,210
you know the language if you know the

701
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:53,150
content of the AMA launch or working of

702
00:29:59,020 --> 00:29:56,990
Aleister Crowley if you if you know how

703
00:30:00,820 --> 00:29:59,030
to read that like I don't speak I'd

704
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:00,830
loved I don't speak German I don't speak

705
00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:03,110
I know a couple of words I don't speak

706
00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:05,390
Russian I know it were so so if someone

707
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:07,460
gives me a whole sentence in Russian I'm

708
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:09,919
lost I don't know what they said I don't

709
00:30:15,010 --> 00:30:11,929
know how to engage that so when law

710
00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:15,020
enforcement shows up with a kid or or a

711
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:19,100
debt our dead body that has a tongue cut

712
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:21,530
out or a left hand cut off or a satanic

713
00:30:26,830 --> 00:30:24,110
justice symbol carved into their chest

714
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:26,840
in the context of a ritual site that has

715
00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:29,890
candles blood symbols and they

716
00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:31,060
can't read any of that they don't know

717
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:32,980
the language they don't know what it's

718
00:30:39,630 --> 00:30:36,340
for until they begin to learn well a

719
00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:39,640
satanic just assemble imprinted that

720
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:43,990
involves the fact that the coven has has

721
00:30:49,020 --> 00:30:45,940
taken this person because they told the

722
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:49,030
secrets and satanic justice is they've

723
00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:51,940
killed them and part of the issue of

724
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:53,380
cutting off the tongue is because they

725
00:30:57,870 --> 00:30:55,690
spoke they shouldn't have theirs rituals

726
00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:57,880
that involve you got to understand the

727
00:31:02,550 --> 00:30:59,530
language of rituals why are certain

728
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:02,560
rituals done what what did what are they

729
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:04,630
what are they about what do they mean so

730
00:31:09,810 --> 00:31:06,610
the two girls that I talk about that we

731
00:31:12,150 --> 00:31:09,820
have on our site a lot we put up both of

732
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,160
them for example I share I share with a

733
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:13,840
federal officer and here's what again

734
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,170
just looking at facts Sara Bane was

735
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,360
abducted out of Rochester Pennsylvania

736
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:22,000
she ended up here in Ohio in a back

737
00:31:29,580 --> 00:31:24,810
field that was known for satanic rituals

738
00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:29,590
Kathy Menendez a month later Sara was

739
00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:33,160
killed slaughtered and killed on demon

740
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:37,540
revels early July on the Satanic

741
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:39,850
calendar in August is satanic rebels

742
00:31:45,390 --> 00:31:43,270
Kathy Menendez so there so when you look

743
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:45,400
at the Satanic calendar and the kind of

744
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,830
ritual that is demanded blood sacrifice

745
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:49,840
usually a girl between seven seventeen

746
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:52,570
when you begin to look and when you have

747
00:31:58,620 --> 00:31:55,900
that in the mode of operation and in how

748
00:32:01,490 --> 00:31:58,630
they operate what they used no different

749
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:01,500
than a burglar or a cat burglar or a

750
00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:04,600
drug lord and you and you see the tools

751
00:32:11,010 --> 00:32:06,820
they use you see the methods they use

752
00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:11,020
well we have to learn and and have in

753
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:15,040
the grid of our understanding the ritual

754
00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:17,680
dates the reason for rituals the types

755
00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:21,100
of rituals and the things that are done

756
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:24,550
to individuals that will tell you was

757
00:32:30,110 --> 00:32:27,430
this a satanic ritual was this a darker

758
00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:30,120
occult ritual in the crow Lydian sense

759
00:32:35,790 --> 00:32:32,920
was this simply a meeting of pay of

760
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:35,800
Wicca and didn't involve blood of human

761
00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:38,290
but it was a ritual site and and yet

762
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:40,390
there's no what so you've got to know

763
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:42,890
the difference between pagan Wiccan

764
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:45,230
and and just simply know their language

765
00:32:50,890 --> 00:32:48,770
and okay so I get that from that well

766
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:50,900
said and and you're saying from a law

767
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,730
enforcement standpoint there's two

768
00:32:57,220 --> 00:32:54,320
problems one there's the grid problem

769
00:32:59,650 --> 00:32:57,230
the belief system worldview that doesn't

770
00:33:01,510 --> 00:32:59,660
let this or doesn't want to allow this

771
00:33:03,790 --> 00:33:01,520
in because almost like the stories you

772
00:33:05,950 --> 00:33:03,800
tell almost suggest like I don't want to

773
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:05,960
go there you know it's not I just I just

774
00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:07,850
it's too uncomfortable and we don't

775
00:33:13,090 --> 00:33:09,980
expect to hear that from law enforcement

776
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,100
but I'm sure it's there what game is the

777
00:33:16,930 --> 00:33:15,200
media playing in this cuz I kind of

778
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:16,940
understand where you're going in the law

779
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:20,480
enforcement grid slash worldview but is

780
00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:22,190
there something more that's going on

781
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:25,460
with mainstream media Hollywood media in

782
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:27,370
terms of how they're portraying this

783
00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:31,280
yeah Alex because of the everybody has a

784
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,500
bias I can just say my bias is I believe

785
00:33:38,290 --> 00:33:35,840
in God I believe in Jesus a Bible you

786
00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:38,300
know that kind of stuff everybody has a

787
00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:39,860
certain bias and so when it comes to

788
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:42,470
journalists and in local news media and

789
00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:46,670
and there's there's clearly again their

790
00:33:51,460 --> 00:33:49,100
grid their bias they have no language

791
00:33:54,610 --> 00:33:51,470
for some of this stuff but you know we

792
00:33:57,390 --> 00:33:54,620
get conspiratorial the sense it is there

793
00:33:59,950 --> 00:33:57,400
a certain level law enforcement media

794
00:34:03,040 --> 00:33:59,960
psychiatry and so forth that that

795
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:03,050
purposely wants to downplay this I can

796
00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:04,250
tell you about being in a Police Academy

797
00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:07,550
where the trainer said to all the cadets

798
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:10,340
all the officers all the detectives in

799
00:34:16,630 --> 00:34:13,700
the whole Academy don't tell the public

800
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:16,640
if you find pentagrams pentagrams carved

801
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:18,950
into a chest if you if you find this

802
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:19,520
content

803
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:21,260
don't tell the public it'll kind of

804
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:23,510
heard that before while I was the I mean

805
00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:25,610
we've seen that over and over again we

806
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:26,929
take the opposite view that's what I'm

807
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:28,520
not that's why I'm not in law

808
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:30,890
enforcement directly although we have we

809
00:34:34,450 --> 00:34:32,450
have former law enforcement that work

810
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:34,460
with us we have particular people that

811
00:34:39,399 --> 00:34:36,950
we work with in law enforcement when it

812
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,409
comes to crimes and death and even the

813
00:34:44,409 --> 00:34:42,560
issue of just sexual abuse if we touch

814
00:34:46,270 --> 00:34:44,419
on the Catholic thing most of the

815
00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:46,280
thousands and thousands of these folks

816
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,620
out of the Catholic system the courts

817
00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:51,440
just wanted to hear about the abuse what

818
00:34:56,139 --> 00:34:54,200
we're not hearing is that many of those

819
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:56,149
cases were satanic ritual abuse the

820
00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:56,639
black were

821
00:35:02,860 --> 00:34:57,940
[Music]

822
00:35:04,660 --> 00:35:02,870
all across Multi Continental and we've

823
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:04,670
engaged it over the years but when it

824
00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:06,110
comes to law enforcement when it comes

825
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:08,350
to the courts when it comes to suing an

826
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,610
institution here's what they tell you

827
00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:13,040
leave out all this religious stuff let's

828
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:16,520
just deal with the physical harm the

829
00:35:24,070 --> 00:35:19,730
sexual harm let's just deal with those

830
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:24,080
factors as far as litigation that that's

831
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:25,100
just something that happens constantly

832
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:29,540
and you guys go conspiratorial a loser

833
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:32,720
because I don't know how you can't to be

834
00:35:37,650 --> 00:35:34,430
honest you know like I've told people

835
00:35:40,270 --> 00:35:37,660
when I started this show I didn't have a

836
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,280
conspiratorial angle at all I was just

837
00:35:45,310 --> 00:35:42,320
following the data I was following the

838
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:45,320
data on the science meme that were

839
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,030
biological robots and a meaningless

840
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:49,520
universe I was like that's [\h__\h] of

841
00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:51,740
course we're more than that I don't know

842
00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:53,900
what we are you know I know my Christian

843
00:35:58,210 --> 00:35:55,700
upbringing told me one thing but I'm

844
00:36:01,390 --> 00:35:58,220
open to whatever it was but why is there

845
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:01,400
this meme in science this atheistic mean

846
00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:03,980
and why is it survived so wrong when all

847
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:05,320
the evidence points in another direction

848
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:08,410
that led me to believing that there's

849
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:11,900
there's a conspiratorial angle to that

850
00:36:17,830 --> 00:36:14,930
there's a reason why that mean by that

851
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:17,840
grid if you will that worldview gets

852
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:20,510
perpetuated and I've got to tell you I

853
00:36:24,940 --> 00:36:22,310
just see the same thing here all over

854
00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:24,950
the place I mean the way this is

855
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:27,950
reported is just absurd it's just so

856
00:36:31,930 --> 00:36:29,810
distorted from the reality that if

857
00:36:33,490 --> 00:36:31,940
anyone does five minutes of research

858
00:36:35,740 --> 00:36:33,500
they go wait that's not true

859
00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:35,750
sure there are there and let's get this

860
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:39,500
out there there are cases of satanic

861
00:36:47,170 --> 00:36:43,370
panic there are satanic hoaxes there are

862
00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:47,180
the woman in England who is in a custody

863
00:36:50,650 --> 00:36:48,860
battle with her husband even though

864
00:36:52,090 --> 00:36:50,660
she's had her kids taken away from her a

865
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:52,100
couple times because she's not a good

866
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:55,670
mom she raises the you know satanic

867
00:37:02,080 --> 00:36:58,070
panic flag and it has a certain effect

868
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:02,090
those things happen that's a reality but

869
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:05,090
it's so the way that reality gets

870
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:07,910
portrayed in the media versus this other

871
00:37:12,689 --> 00:37:09,849
reality that you're talking about

872
00:37:14,430 --> 00:37:12,699
which far outweighs in terms of number

873
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:14,440
in terms of importance and in terms of

874
00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:16,630
everything else how do you not see that

875
00:37:23,099 --> 00:37:20,140
as some kind of controlled release of

876
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,109
this information well I mean and again I

877
00:37:28,049 --> 00:37:24,640
think in a law enforcement even in psych

878
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:28,059
I just in a societal way look at the

879
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:28,930
drug lords

880
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:31,180
do they not operate secretly do they not

881
00:37:36,059 --> 00:37:33,910
operate in in threat of punishment if

882
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:36,069
any of their people would you know tell

883
00:37:39,509 --> 00:37:37,599
what about the mafia and they're not

884
00:37:42,989 --> 00:37:39,519
operating in a secretive way organized

885
00:37:45,479 --> 00:37:42,999
crime does the drug lords do human

886
00:37:47,459 --> 00:37:45,489
trafficking of a millions of kids and

887
00:37:50,279 --> 00:37:47,469
boys and girls they operate in deep

888
00:37:53,849 --> 00:37:50,289
secrecy and a fear factor if you get out

889
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:53,859
and telling you know what is it snitches

890
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,130
get stitches yeah so there is there is

891
00:38:02,009 --> 00:38:00,160
this whole issue of the fear factor so

892
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:02,019
what I keep telling everybody didn't

893
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:03,910
just keep dealing with the individual

894
00:38:10,009 --> 00:38:07,420
victims because you cannot have split

895
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:10,019
personality without massive trauma

896
00:38:13,979 --> 00:38:12,670
usually sexual mental emotional over and

897
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:13,989
over again everybody knows that in

898
00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:16,690
psychiatry you can't be di de without

899
00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:18,789
that then the other question is why

900
00:38:21,989 --> 00:38:20,920
there why are there so many of them why

901
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:21,999
have they all of a sudden showing up

902
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:24,190
everywhere every so we deal with that

903
00:38:28,289 --> 00:38:25,930
part of it if you're gonna engage a

904
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,299
child is they're sexually there's

905
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:29,920
certain indicators look at the private

906
00:38:34,349 --> 00:38:32,680
parts of a child or a young person or in

907
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,359
a rape case with law enforcement is

908
00:38:39,479 --> 00:38:36,640
there evidence of a rape is there

909
00:38:43,259 --> 00:38:39,489
evidence of sexual abuse are there marks

910
00:38:46,229 --> 00:38:43,269
are there tears are there you know so

911
00:38:48,989 --> 00:38:46,239
all of the forensic evidence in a rape

912
00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:48,999
case in a sexual abuse case that has to

913
00:38:52,349 --> 00:38:50,920
come into play so if someone comes

914
00:38:53,759 --> 00:38:52,359
forward and says I've been raped I've

915
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:53,769
been this happened in these people and

916
00:38:57,779 --> 00:38:55,690
my uncle did this and the teacher at the

917
00:38:59,489 --> 00:38:57,789
school did this and they've been rabid

918
00:39:01,289 --> 00:38:59,499
rate four times and occurred last night

919
00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:01,299
and occurred last week well they go in

920
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:03,190
to get a physical checkup by by

921
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:05,170
competent doctors and multiple doctors

922
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:07,180
and they're all saying this person

923
00:39:10,499 --> 00:39:08,890
hasn't been touched or this girl is

924
00:39:12,089 --> 00:39:10,509
still a virgin and she hasn't been

925
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,099
touched there's no physical markings

926
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:14,079
there's no tech you know vaginal tears

927
00:39:20,209 --> 00:39:16,390
you know none of the characteristics of

928
00:39:23,009 --> 00:39:20,219
real physical stuff occurred so that's

929
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:23,019
that then begins to tell you you know

930
00:39:33,450 --> 00:39:23,770
the

931
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:33,460
understand what you're saying because I

932
00:39:38,450 --> 00:39:34,390
don't want people to get the wrong

933
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:38,460
impression you're saying cases that are

934
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:42,280
misreported or intentionally fabricated

935
00:39:47,310 --> 00:39:45,310
can pretty easily in a lot of cases when

936
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:47,320
people are talking about physical abuse

937
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:49,030
law enforcement has a lot of experience

938
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:50,440
that they can get to the bottom of it

939
00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:52,750
what I hear you saying over and over

940
00:39:57,390 --> 00:39:54,790
again is what do you do with the fact

941
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,400
that they get to all that and they go

942
00:40:01,880 --> 00:39:59,680
yes this really did happen and then

943
00:40:04,530 --> 00:40:01,890
they're forced to deal with the

944
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:04,540
eyewitness testimony the experience or

945
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,540
the victim who says and this is how it

946
00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:09,280
happened I was brought into a circle

947
00:40:13,950 --> 00:40:11,380
these people had hoods they were doing

948
00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:13,960
these crazy ceremonies and all the rest

949
00:40:17,070 --> 00:40:15,340
of that and you're saying what they do

950
00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:17,080
is they have to accept the physical

951
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:19,900
evidence of in this case maybe sexual

952
00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:23,080
abuse they seem to not be able to deal

953
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:25,540
with everything else which is kind of a

954
00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:29,590
strange way of handling the data right

955
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:31,870
because you know for let's just say

956
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:34,150
let's take like a forensic attitude

957
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:36,790
towards multiple personality disorder

958
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:39,190
individuals what everybody pretty much

959
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:41,290
knows is that means there's been mental

960
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:43,210
emotional and most likely physical and

961
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:46,330
sexual abuses that caused such trauma

962
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:49,180
that it tore the personality so there's

963
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,950
no debate on that subject it's in the

964
00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:52,480
DSM 3 H DSM fors

965
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:55,360
that's all secular content that's that's

966
00:41:00,360 --> 00:40:57,250
world you know that's worldwide on that

967
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:00,370
issue on the that now if you have a

968
00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:01,990
person coming forward that they were

969
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:04,420
raped by a coven I can let me just give

970
00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:06,610
me one story right by a coven this thing

971
00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:09,100
occurred so when we hear these stories

972
00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:11,140
this is what we started doing Alex way

973
00:41:14,370 --> 00:41:13,480
back in the 80s we decided we're gonna

974
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:14,380
go after

975
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:16,930
is there really a location they gave us

976
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:18,730
a location is there really a barn there

977
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:20,650
is zerah is there a basement is there a

978
00:41:25,890 --> 00:41:23,920
secret door is there a is it in a wooded

979
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:25,900
area in a cemetery area is there a lid

980
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:27,550
we can lift off and look in there and

981
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:30,010
see what what they told us so when we

982
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:32,650
hear here the content or over the years

983
00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:35,770
hundreds of times we've taken victims

984
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:37,060
with us as

985
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:39,310
you got you show us you take us to the

986
00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:42,610
spot you show us where it occurred so if

987
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:46,120
we in in some cases blatant evidence

988
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:50,230
very very clear in in other cases it's

989
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:52,060
not here any longer they must have moved

990
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:52,960
it

991
00:41:59,580 --> 00:41:55,810
there's no the pentagram on the floor is

992
00:42:03,510 --> 00:41:59,590
gone so that's when you have to as an

993
00:42:07,530 --> 00:42:03,520
investigator look at the facts and begin

994
00:42:08,970 --> 00:42:07,540
to see is this a domestic thing where

995
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:08,980
somebody's just trying to get custody

996
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:11,530
and it's it's you know and that's that's

997
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:14,350
but that's bad enough we're we're maybe

998
00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:16,770
one of those spouse is trying to tell

999
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,380
get the child to say all the sexual

1000
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:22,560
abuse occurred or satanic abuse occurred

1001
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:24,970
only to get custody and only they had

1002
00:42:29,850 --> 00:42:27,850
the other spouse put away it's pretty

1003
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:29,860
it's it's also a crime to accuse

1004
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:31,390
somebody of things they've never been it

1005
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:33,640
they've never done I think it's a I

1006
00:42:39,090 --> 00:42:37,420
think it's a it's a it's also abuse when

1007
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:39,100
you accuse somebody of being a Satanist

1008
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:41,110
a pedophile or whatever and there's no

1009
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:43,300
possibility as they are so again

1010
00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:46,090
following evidence is very very key but

1011
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:49,150
if that evidence includes weird ancient

1012
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:51,340
languages maybe you did find this site

1013
00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:53,200
maybe you did like we didn't find find a

1014
00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:55,120
basement that had blood all over it that

1015
00:42:59,820 --> 00:42:57,730
had symbols on the wall what did the

1016
00:43:02,850 --> 00:42:59,830
symbols mean what did the language mean

1017
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:02,860
why are words written backwards so all

1018
00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:05,730
of that has meaning to the people that

1019
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:08,140
sacrificed an animal or sacrificed a

1020
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:11,350
human being or did a sex ritual with tie

1021
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:14,650
downs of course if you find pictures or

1022
00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:17,650
if you find flash drives that's then

1023
00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:19,660
you're talking more smoking-gun stuff

1024
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:25,180
and and that's part of the whole of

1025
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,670
investigating so I don't have any

1026
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:28,960
problem with an atheist saying well I

1027
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:30,250
don't believe any of this I don't think

1028
00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:32,440
it's all like when Kenneth landing the

1029
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:35,140
federal officer back in the 90s it went

1030
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:37,840
out and say I searched this out and I

1031
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:40,090
studied all the investigating there's no

1032
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:42,520
there's no there's no nationwide satanic

1033
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:44,530
ring no kid is landing the federal

1034
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:47,640
officer made most of those

1035
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:49,810
investigations by phone calls from his

1036
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:50,890
office

1037
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,690
is where I'll get myself in trouble with

1038
00:43:59,579 --> 00:43:57,760
this ended up in a psych ward himself

1039
00:44:01,410 --> 00:43:59,589
I'm not gonna listen to Ken Lanning

1040
00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:01,420
I'm gonna listen to the hundreds of

1041
00:44:04,799 --> 00:44:02,680
victims and I've personally dealt with

1042
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:04,809
to the thousands and across the board

1043
00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:07,750
and here's what we have to answer who

1044
00:44:14,279 --> 00:44:11,400
did this to them what tools did they use

1045
00:44:16,349 --> 00:44:14,289
because you can you can you can you

1046
00:44:19,049 --> 00:44:16,359
could be brutally sexually abused as a

1047
00:44:20,549 --> 00:44:19,059
three-year-old and also split in your

1048
00:44:24,690 --> 00:44:20,559
personality and it didn't involve

1049
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:24,700
Satanism most of the sra or the or the d

1050
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:28,089
ID issues do involve Satanism a very

1051
00:44:32,759 --> 00:44:30,220
sophisticated kind so if you think in

1052
00:44:35,549 --> 00:44:32,769
terms of satanic ritual abuse think in

1053
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:35,559
terms of mafia think in terms of drug

1054
00:44:43,740 --> 00:44:41,140
lord terror if you tell is such secrecy

1055
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:43,750
so if we can understand that there's

1056
00:44:48,839 --> 00:44:45,970
drug lords and drug cartels and our

1057
00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:48,849
global billion-dollar industries that

1058
00:44:54,049 --> 00:44:51,220
nobody can bring down and they're

1059
00:44:57,630 --> 00:44:54,059
sophisticated they even use drones now

1060
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:57,640
then we know that you know and most of

1061
00:45:01,859 --> 00:44:59,410
the drug pimps most of the drug lords

1062
00:45:03,509 --> 00:45:01,869
are not caught most of the mafia people

1063
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:03,519
most of the mafia crime they're not

1064
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:07,569
caught when it comes it's not it's not

1065
00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:11,049
too hard to extend that and say if we

1066
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:13,599
know there is this issue of satanic

1067
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:16,960
practices tied to crime why would we not

1068
00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:20,230
at the very least expect the same kind

1069
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:23,140
of activity being performed and I'm with

1070
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:25,690
you 100% and I love that you're trying

1071
00:45:30,210 --> 00:45:28,390
to apply kind of a secular filter to it

1072
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:30,220
which I appreciate because that's not

1073
00:45:34,499 --> 00:45:32,380
your orientation and you have a

1074
00:45:37,259 --> 00:45:34,509
particular view on that which we will

1075
00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:37,269
hear and we need to hear but let me

1076
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:38,829
switch gears because you brought this up

1077
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:40,630
a couple of times and I want to make

1078
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:44,319
sure we talk about the MK ULTRA you've

1079
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:46,089
thrown it out there we've investigated

1080
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:49,390
it extensively on this show we've also

1081
00:45:56,999 --> 00:45:52,329
investigated just the psy phenomena

1082
00:46:02,130 --> 00:45:57,009
inside researchers but tell me what you

1083
00:46:04,450 --> 00:46:02,140
think MK ULTRA is all about and what

1084
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:04,460
these people were doing because

1085
00:46:10,690 --> 00:46:07,400
there is I want to inject a little bit

1086
00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:10,700
of my overlay my grid if you will is

1087
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:13,160
that initially when a lot of this stuff

1088
00:46:21,310 --> 00:46:16,970
started it was in response to what they

1089
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:21,320
thought was a threat from the enemy if

1090
00:46:26,349 --> 00:46:23,690
you will the enemy being Russia who was

1091
00:46:28,359 --> 00:46:26,359
engaged in a lot of this activity but

1092
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:28,369
there was also as you point out and I'm

1093
00:46:32,740 --> 00:46:30,740
sure you will there was a direct Nazi

1094
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:32,750
connection or we had just picked up

1095
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:35,720
their research and said gee horrible

1096
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:37,910
thing that you've done but let's see if

1097
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:40,930
we can do it better kind of thing

1098
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:43,970
Alex you're a million percent right on

1099
00:46:47,859 --> 00:46:46,070
that issue because that's part of the

1100
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:47,869
issue of 30-some years of researching it

1101
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:50,240
and wanting to have the facts and

1102
00:46:54,010 --> 00:46:52,940
wanting to have those things because if

1103
00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:54,020
they're really they're there we need to

1104
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:55,880
deal with it it's really that content we

1105
00:46:59,680 --> 00:46:57,770
need to understand understand it what it

1106
00:47:01,720 --> 00:46:59,690
is so you're absolutely right when it

1107
00:47:04,390 --> 00:47:01,730
comes to SCI warriors no question about

1108
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:04,400
United States knew that they had to do

1109
00:47:08,650 --> 00:47:07,010
something in the 50s to counteract the

1110
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:08,660
what they learned about the Russians

1111
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:10,609
what they were doing what nobody was

1112
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:13,250
saying though that the step back like

1113
00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:14,690
you just did step back another step

1114
00:47:19,690 --> 00:47:17,540
where did the Russians get it where did

1115
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:19,700
the Americans get it then when you do a

1116
00:47:22,660 --> 00:47:21,050
little further research where did the

1117
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:22,670
Brits get it where did the Canadians get

1118
00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:25,070
it where do the Australians get it they

1119
00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:28,820
all went in to some of these projects so

1120
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:31,550
you do go back to the Nazis and I know

1121
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:33,170
that some will say it's just pure

1122
00:47:37,870 --> 00:47:35,570
conspiracy but you could mean it I could

1123
00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:37,880
read 200 books on the Nazi regime and

1124
00:47:41,950 --> 00:47:40,280
all that they did everything everybody

1125
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,960
knows they taught about a master race

1126
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:44,000
they believed in a master race whether

1127
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:45,470
we want to believe in the spiritual side

1128
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:47,530
of that forget that part of it again

1129
00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:50,089
did they really did Himmler really

1130
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:53,030
believe that they could back breed to

1131
00:47:59,170 --> 00:47:56,300
become the great super soldiers or the

1132
00:48:00,930 --> 00:47:59,180
Godman small G did he really believe

1133
00:48:03,490 --> 00:48:00,940
that absolutely he was a breeder he

1134
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:03,500
believed that so he believed the

1135
00:48:09,550 --> 00:48:06,530
spiritual doctrine I believed Hitler did

1136
00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:09,560
that too and and many of the top SS they

1137
00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:12,320
believed in this so much so they created

1138
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,260
Levens war the secret birthing centers

1139
00:48:22,109 --> 00:48:18,400
all over Germany in the 1938

1140
00:48:24,089 --> 00:48:22,119
in 39 1940 where they took Germans that

1141
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:24,099
they thought they could prove had the

1142
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:27,520
occult version of the Aryan one the god

1143
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,770
men if they could just make them mate

1144
00:48:35,789 --> 00:48:32,319
and breed the next generation the new

1145
00:48:38,279 --> 00:48:35,799
laymen's born babies the the new master

1146
00:48:40,589 --> 00:48:38,289
race babies they would have they would

1147
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:40,599
become more powerful we'll use them as

1148
00:48:45,289 --> 00:48:42,430
soldiers and they would continue that

1149
00:48:48,930 --> 00:48:45,299
process so there's no question about

1150
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:48,940
they believed in a master race that they

1151
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:51,730
actually applied that to genetic

1152
00:48:57,690 --> 00:48:55,119
birthing centers they believed in it so

1153
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,700
much so that Himmler said anybody fun

1154
00:49:02,460 --> 00:48:59,440
now you could find this quote in the web

1155
00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:02,470
Hitler said if we could create but 200

1156
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:05,980
million of these super soldiers are

1157
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:10,480
these Godman these Nordic hyper humans

1158
00:49:15,210 --> 00:49:13,720
or hybrid humans as he called him if we

1159
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,220
could do if we can build it two hundred

1160
00:49:16,859 --> 00:49:16,720
million not only could we conquer the

1161
00:49:18,839 --> 00:49:16,869
earth

1162
00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:18,849
you know conquer the world but we could

1163
00:49:23,819 --> 00:49:20,740
maintain it rule it for a thousand years

1164
00:49:27,150 --> 00:49:23,829
now that's what he believed it bizarre

1165
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,160
yes stupid yes of course I've been to

1166
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:29,680
Auschwitz I stood in the gas chambers I

1167
00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:31,930
we've tracked this to Hitler's castle

1168
00:49:38,130 --> 00:49:34,660
I've been in the Hall of the Dead tell

1169
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:38,140
us about that story that your trip to

1170
00:49:43,769 --> 00:49:40,960
the Hall of the Dead and again the

1171
00:49:46,789 --> 00:49:43,779
physical evidence that you found you

1172
00:49:49,019 --> 00:49:46,799
know the symbolism what we know now

1173
00:49:51,859 --> 00:49:49,029
happened you know a lot of people are

1174
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:51,869
interested in the Nazi occult link and

1175
00:49:57,029 --> 00:49:54,130
people have a lot of different spins on

1176
00:49:58,700 --> 00:49:57,039
it but it's undeniable it's undeniable

1177
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:58,710
that they were heavily heavily

1178
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:01,599
influenced by that and then we pick that

1179
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,010
up as you're going to talk about in a

1180
00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:05,200
minute with them k ultra and say well

1181
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:07,180
gee golly gee just to defend our country

1182
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:10,150
if the spirits can be on our side if the

1183
00:50:13,529 --> 00:50:11,890
demons can be on our side we'd better

1184
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:13,539
get him on our side which is kind of a

1185
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:16,210
bizarre for most of us is kind of a

1186
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:19,180
completely bizarre idea in the same way

1187
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:20,950
but maybe we'll talk later about

1188
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:23,920
Aleister Crowley in the desert you know

1189
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:26,650
trying to bring about the Antichrist

1190
00:50:32,170 --> 00:50:30,250
with l ron hubbard as the guy he's right

1191
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:32,180
there yeah Hortis

1192
00:50:38,290 --> 00:50:34,490
hating in that increase Scientology and

1193
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:38,300
there's also links to Mormonism that

1194
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:40,280
maybe we will we will or will not get

1195
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:42,710
into but all that stuff is like document

1196
00:50:46,839 --> 00:50:44,450
I just interviewed let me go on for just

1197
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,849
a second I just interviewed dr. Hugh

1198
00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:48,400
Urban from Ohio State University

1199
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:51,559
comparative religion professor written a

1200
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:54,050
book on Scientology and written a book

1201
00:50:59,260 --> 00:50:57,290
on cults in general but he documents

1202
00:51:01,540 --> 00:50:59,270
very carefully that exactly this

1203
00:51:05,620 --> 00:51:01,550
happened this ritualistic ceremony in

1204
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,630
the desert of the United States to bring

1205
00:51:10,990 --> 00:51:08,000
about the Antichrist these guys were

1206
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:11,000
serious about that and yet we treat it

1207
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:14,390
in in academia even doctor urban just

1208
00:51:18,970 --> 00:51:17,150
kind of blows by that and goes okay and

1209
00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:18,980
here's the next thing to deal with as if

1210
00:51:25,329 --> 00:51:21,950
we can completely divorce ourselves from

1211
00:51:26,890 --> 00:51:25,339
the potential spiritual reality whatever

1212
00:51:28,510 --> 00:51:26,900
you believe but you have a Christian

1213
00:51:30,730 --> 00:51:28,520
overlay on that or whether you think

1214
00:51:32,410 --> 00:51:30,740
that you have to look beyond the

1215
00:51:35,290 --> 00:51:32,420
Christian overland and I guess I tie

1216
00:51:36,789 --> 00:51:35,300
that back to your think about Germany

1217
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:36,799
and the Nazis because it's the same

1218
00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:38,930
thing folks I mean you don't have to go

1219
00:51:42,579 --> 00:51:41,030
all the way there with the Nazis but you

1220
00:51:44,829 --> 00:51:42,589
can't deny that they were interested in

1221
00:51:46,539 --> 00:51:44,839
the occult you can't deny that those SS

1222
00:51:48,940 --> 00:51:46,549
uniforms had the little skull and

1223
00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:48,950
crossbones on them and they were and

1224
00:51:53,650 --> 00:51:51,319
that they were actively trying to seek

1225
00:51:56,020 --> 00:51:53,660
all these occult objects in order to

1226
00:51:58,049 --> 00:51:56,030
empower what they would do I mean the

1227
00:52:00,579 --> 00:51:58,059
Raiders of the Lost Ark they didn't

1228
00:52:02,620 --> 00:52:00,589
Lucas just didn't make that up out of

1229
00:52:05,799 --> 00:52:02,630
thin air but there was a reality to all

1230
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:05,809
that so with that and Andy going on tell

1231
00:52:11,859 --> 00:52:09,410
us what you saw and experienced when you

1232
00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:11,869
were in the castle in Germany well

1233
00:52:15,339 --> 00:52:13,790
that's that was the whole issue where

1234
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:15,349
did it come from that we just we kept

1235
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:17,510
following the trail follow the evidence

1236
00:52:22,569 --> 00:52:20,210
so I'll say this real quick modern-day

1237
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:22,579
if you want to call MKULTRA it's kind of

1238
00:52:27,819 --> 00:52:25,630
old but modern-day MKULTRA here

1239
00:52:31,569 --> 00:52:27,829
modern-day sagina commercial abuse is

1240
00:52:34,059 --> 00:52:31,579
nothing less than the extension of the

1241
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,069
agenda of the master race that the Nazi

1242
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:37,280
started in 1939 there's a reason they

1243
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:39,440
believed it there's a reason why like

1244
00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:41,390
think of terms Alex of the final

1245
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:44,030
solution when the Nazis met in a

1246
00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:45,710
secretive meeting to

1247
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:48,950
discuss the camp's they would build the

1248
00:52:53,970 --> 00:52:51,410
ovens that would be built to be large

1249
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:53,980
enough the way in which they would

1250
00:52:58,359 --> 00:52:56,450
gather up the Jews and others and

1251
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,369
gypsies and so forth and and how they

1252
00:53:05,050 --> 00:53:01,280
can bring them down to the camps they

1253
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:05,060
sat there in a sophisticated way that

1254
00:53:09,790 --> 00:53:06,980
involved engineering that involved

1255
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:09,800
moving that involves so many things in

1256
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:12,290
plotting and planning there the final

1257
00:53:18,010 --> 00:53:14,990
solution in eradicating Jews Gypsies

1258
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,020
whoever else was in their way so that

1259
00:53:22,180 --> 00:53:19,760
all occurred the camps you know there's

1260
00:53:24,490 --> 00:53:22,190
900 more so actually more than just a

1261
00:53:27,010 --> 00:53:24,500
few so the same things true concerning

1262
00:53:29,470 --> 00:53:27,020
you know when I wanted to know where

1263
00:53:30,910 --> 00:53:29,480
where are thousands or even millions of

1264
00:53:33,790 --> 00:53:30,920
satanic richly abused

1265
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:33,800
multiple-personality all this where's it

1266
00:53:37,150 --> 00:53:34,810
coming from

1267
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,160
so we kept tracking and tracking and

1268
00:53:42,070 --> 00:53:39,680
we've had over three decades that led us

1269
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:42,080
to Germany when we met Fort Bragg Side

1270
00:53:46,180 --> 00:53:43,849
warriors when I met a federal officers

1271
00:53:48,970 --> 00:53:46,190
wife first here's a here's a point

1272
00:53:51,579 --> 00:53:48,980
that's important in the first generation

1273
00:53:54,510 --> 00:53:51,589
of multiple personality disorder that

1274
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:54,520
started in the late 70s early 80s when

1275
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:56,750
30 year olds and others were starting to

1276
00:54:00,820 --> 00:53:58,670
come in the psychiatric community

1277
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:00,830
psychology community they don't know

1278
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:03,170
what to do and and they begin to every

1279
00:54:06,490 --> 00:54:04,490
psych ward all the counselors were

1280
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:06,500
getting them so they came up with the

1281
00:54:12,849 --> 00:54:08,690
DSM 3 and he they said here's the

1282
00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:12,859
diagnostic tests and the evidences for a

1283
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:15,800
multiple personality disorder that

1284
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:20,630
phrase so that the psych ward world

1285
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,730
began to deal with that they had to deal

1286
00:54:26,620 --> 00:54:25,040
with that but they didn't go tracking it

1287
00:54:28,270 --> 00:54:26,630
they dealt with that in an academic way

1288
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:28,280
they dealt with that in the office way

1289
00:54:32,890 --> 00:54:31,310
our way of dealing with it was we're

1290
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,900
gonna go take this to the ends of the

1291
00:54:36,460 --> 00:54:34,160
earth and we're gonna search we're gonna

1292
00:54:38,530 --> 00:54:36,470
go wherever we need to go which led us

1293
00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:38,540
to Germany so I'm going to tell you this

1294
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,000
modern-day MKULTRA the military side is

1295
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:43,760
a sanitized version of the development

1296
00:54:47,410 --> 00:54:45,910
of the master race an altered human

1297
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:47,420
enhanced humans

1298
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:49,609
that's what SCI warrior ISM is all about

1299
00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:51,530
where the russian whether United States

1300
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,900
whether remote viewers at at Fort Meade

1301
00:54:58,700 --> 00:54:56,400
in Stargate

1302
00:55:00,650 --> 00:54:58,710
the the for drag goat lab where they

1303
00:55:02,779 --> 00:55:00,660
were using sigh powers to explode the

1304
00:55:03,859 --> 00:55:02,789
the heart of a goat those that were in

1305
00:55:05,660 --> 00:55:03,869
the program that we dealt with

1306
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:05,670
personally they were there they knew

1307
00:55:10,009 --> 00:55:08,130
that alexsei the folks at new sidney

1308
00:55:11,749 --> 00:55:10,019
gottlieb directly the folks that know

1309
00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:11,759
john alexander the folks that know

1310
00:55:14,569 --> 00:55:12,390
Stubblebine

1311
00:55:17,779 --> 00:55:14,579
all these folks that we dealt with on

1312
00:55:20,539 --> 00:55:17,789
that level there's no question about the

1313
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,549
research level the reality level the

1314
00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:22,559
books that are involved but the people

1315
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:23,579
that are involved also

1316
00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:26,970
David Morehouse psychic warrior one of

1317
00:55:30,829 --> 00:55:29,039
the remote viewers out of Stargate so

1318
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,839
when you when you deal with all of them

1319
00:55:36,289 --> 00:55:33,359
all of that content you track it

1320
00:55:38,359 --> 00:55:36,299
backwards it all goes back to the Nazis

1321
00:55:41,269 --> 00:55:38,369
it all goes back to their belief system

1322
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:41,279
spiritual it all ended up like the like

1323
00:55:46,099 --> 00:55:43,890
like Nazi ideology was actually

1324
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:46,109
spiritual revelation whether we want to

1325
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:48,390
we don't we don't have to say people

1326
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:49,890
said you can say I don't believe in that

1327
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:52,799
well they did they believed they were

1328
00:55:57,380 --> 00:55:55,410
engaging non-human entities in the Hall

1329
00:56:00,440 --> 00:55:57,390
of the Dead and the himmler castle in

1330
00:56:03,229 --> 00:56:00,450
which himmler was gonna turn the himmler

1331
00:56:05,269 --> 00:56:03,239
castle was going to be turned into a the

1332
00:56:07,849 --> 00:56:05,279
the place in which they would rule the

1333
00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:07,859
world from so down in the hall of the

1334
00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,420
Dead is where rituals were done now in

1335
00:56:13,279 --> 00:56:10,799
the hall of the Dead is where the 13

1336
00:56:14,749 --> 00:56:13,289
skulls were put in the indentions down

1337
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:14,759
on the hall of the Dead is where Himmler

1338
00:56:19,130 --> 00:56:17,160
and Hitler villa got the ancient

1339
00:56:21,859 --> 00:56:19,140
sorcerer that was taken out of the psych

1340
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,869
ward in Germany and Himmler had him as

1341
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:24,180
the primary sorcerer they're doing

1342
00:56:30,049 --> 00:56:27,569
rituals in that in that in that hall of

1343
00:56:33,380 --> 00:56:30,059
the Dead that I stood in very charged

1344
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:33,390
spiritually charged place so from that

1345
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:37,710
place and after the war and all the Nazi

1346
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:39,900
doctors and all the scientists were

1347
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:43,230
taken here's what anybody can do track

1348
00:56:48,170 --> 00:56:47,249
the Nazi ratlines in the early 50s to

1349
00:56:50,839 --> 00:56:48,180
mid 50s

1350
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:50,849
wherever the ratlines went in all the

1351
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:52,710
world South America South Africa

1352
00:56:57,729 --> 00:56:53,819
Johannesburg

1353
00:57:00,890 --> 00:56:57,739
Vittoria into Chile to Argentina

1354
00:57:01,569 --> 00:57:00,900
wherever the ratlines went guess what

1355
00:57:06,289 --> 00:57:01,579
happens

1356
00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:06,299
you can now track the emergence twenty

1357
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:08,670
five years later the emergence of the

1358
00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:09,940
victims of

1359
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:13,060
of multiple personality mind-control

1360
00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:16,720
amico they begin to show up in Canada

1361
00:57:22,650 --> 00:57:19,630
Australia New Zealand South Africa South

1362
00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:22,660
America all over Europe in Britain

1363
00:57:27,059 --> 00:57:25,390
whoever whoever wherever the ratlines

1364
00:57:31,050 --> 00:57:27,069
went in the in the Catholic Church

1365
00:57:33,630 --> 00:57:31,060
system nationwide wherever the Nazi

1366
00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:33,640
became fake priests wherever they went

1367
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:37,150
and we're not captured we're not dealt

1368
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:39,670
with didn't go to Nuremberg they

1369
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,150
continued the project the project both

1370
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:46,480
has a spiritual component that you could

1371
00:57:52,410 --> 00:57:49,780
speak to but it also has what you're

1372
00:57:55,859 --> 00:57:52,420
referring to and I can confirm from

1373
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:55,869
everything iPhone has a technological if

1374
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:57,030
you will

1375
00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:00,160
component to it so that's when you say

1376
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:02,920
the sanitized you could also use the

1377
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:06,130
word you know perfected so when they

1378
00:58:12,809 --> 00:58:09,730
brought it into the lab Stargate and

1379
00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:12,819
Stanford Research Institute and how put

1380
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,460
off in Russell Targ I'm not saying that

1381
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:17,920
those guys in there sidney gottlieb you

1382
00:58:24,930 --> 00:58:21,640
know the doctor respected doctor but

1383
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:24,940
many people outwardly say that he's the

1384
00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:27,970
josef mengele of the united states so

1385
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:32,260
there's a undeniable reality to what

1386
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:34,450
you're talking about how do you parse

1387
00:58:41,609 --> 00:58:38,160
that though how do you parse the

1388
00:58:45,930 --> 00:58:41,619
technology component the good soldier

1389
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:45,940
component of i'm asked to do a job I'm

1390
00:58:50,819 --> 00:58:48,460
John Alexander I'm told to do this stuff

1391
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:50,829
I'm Joe McDonald I'm told to do this

1392
00:58:56,359 --> 00:58:53,890
stuff and I do it because that's my

1393
00:58:59,010 --> 00:58:56,369
assignment and I can see some immediate

1394
00:59:02,520 --> 00:58:59,020
intelligence payoff for this I mean if I

1395
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,530
can Remote View enemies location around

1396
00:59:08,609 --> 00:59:04,720
the world that doesn't seem to me to be

1397
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:08,619
sure not see evil how do you parse the

1398
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:12,609
as you said it you know the sanitized

1399
00:59:19,470 --> 00:59:14,890
version of it that seems to have a

1400
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:19,480
genuine intelligence component with what

1401
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:21,910
you're talking about which is really

1402
00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:23,950
kind of challenging but I think people

1403
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:26,740
have to deal with it is the super

1404
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:30,010
spiritual aspect of this sure well I

1405
00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:31,870
think at this point now the physical

1406
00:59:39,210 --> 00:59:34,600
side the reality of MKULTRA monarch you

1407
00:59:41,850 --> 00:59:39,220
know mind control program shooters there

1408
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:41,860
I think that there's so many victims so

1409
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:44,680
many have been investigating now for

1410
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,780
decades I mean I've been involved 38

1411
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:48,640
years in direct investigation of it in

1412
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:51,040
the direct working with victims and all

1413
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:52,630
over the place including military ones

1414
00:59:56,790 --> 00:59:54,400
including in McKee ultra including these

1415
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,800
individuals and that occurs to this very

1416
01:00:01,470 --> 00:59:59,200
day we got cases all around us we have

1417
01:00:02,910 --> 01:00:01,480
threats all around us I was at the

1418
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:02,920
mind-control conference in Richmond

1419
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:05,200
Virginia when Allen chef Dean corydon

1420
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:07,870
Hammond talked about the green bomb the

1421
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:09,970
famous green bomb speech I was there at

1422
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:12,220
that conference they they believe they

1423
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:13,810
were not Christians they believed that

1424
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:16,450
there was a nationwide conspiracy they

1425
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:18,430
acknowledged the CIA's involvement they

1426
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:20,710
acknowledged he had see a CIA presence

1427
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:22,420
in that meeting

1428
01:00:26,010 --> 01:00:24,430
Gordon Hammond was getting out of it

1429
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:26,020
because of the threats that he got but

1430
01:00:29,220 --> 01:00:27,250
let me do this Alex let me hold up

1431
01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:29,230
something to you this book here honor if

1432
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:32,260
you ever seen this book I quoted this in

1433
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:34,210
my book the black awakening ten years

1434
01:00:39,450 --> 01:00:36,970
ago I keep mentioning it left and right

1435
01:00:41,330 --> 01:00:39,460
you can get it on Amazon probably for

1436
01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:41,340
about 100 bucks hundred fifty bucks now

1437
01:00:46,890 --> 01:00:44,830
I'm amazed that there's hardly anybody

1438
01:00:49,290 --> 01:00:46,900
in all the books I buy every book I can

1439
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:49,300
find that's out on MKULTRA every single

1440
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:51,760
book on the subject Wow I mean that's

1441
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:53,590
that's what we do that's what our teams

1442
01:01:01,620 --> 01:00:56,890
do this book right here is written by G

1443
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:01,630
H Estabrooks world benign renowned

1444
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:03,910
psychologist psychiatrist in the 1950s

1445
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:06,520
world renowned had to be global kind of

1446
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:07,930
like the world

1447
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:10,050
American Psychological Association

1448
01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:11,890
Psychological Association of the world

1449
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:14,340
he's considered one of the greatest

1450
01:01:20,670 --> 01:01:17,230
psychologists psychiatrists worldwide US

1451
01:01:24,450 --> 01:01:20,680
military hires him they be he begins to

1452
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:24,460
work with them this book is put out here

1453
01:01:31,850 --> 01:01:27,790
in a chapter called weaponizing here's

1454
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:31,860
what he says in 1947 this is put out

1455
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:35,230
1947 here's what he says just like

1456
01:01:39,290 --> 01:01:35,710
you're saying

1457
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:39,300
we in the arms race in the battle

1458
01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:42,490
developing weapons and so forth we know

1459
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:43,540
that we have to do anything and

1460
01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:46,710
everything to be ahead of everybody else

1461
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:50,020
he says here in that chapter and

1462
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:52,330
weaponization we learned how to take

1463
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:55,530
soldiers create here's his terminology

1464
01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:58,930
create multiple personalities create an

1465
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:01,359
alter personality we learned how to

1466
01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:04,680
program those sub personalities to be

1467
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:07,900
active assassin shooters disinformation

1468
01:02:14,339 --> 01:02:11,920
agents spies infiltrators we've learned

1469
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:14,349
how to program them give them a trigger

1470
01:02:18,990 --> 01:02:16,450
and put them down inside the soldier

1471
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:19,000
without the soldier knowing what's

1472
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:21,369
really there you know what you know what

1473
01:02:25,260 --> 01:02:23,980
he says in this book in 1947 he says I

1474
01:02:27,630 --> 01:02:25,270
think he spilled the beans and they

1475
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:27,640
tried to cover it up since here's the

1476
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:29,050
guy that did all the stuff here's the

1477
01:02:32,910 --> 01:02:30,520
guy that did the stuff with Sidney

1478
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:32,920
Gottlieb with all those people back in

1479
01:02:38,599 --> 01:02:36,190
that day he said what we need to do

1480
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:38,609
after he explains and details the

1481
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:42,010
effectiveness of creating alter

1482
01:02:47,220 --> 01:02:45,280
personalities creating the spies the the

1483
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:47,230
program shooters the assassins and so

1484
01:02:52,050 --> 01:02:48,940
forth and how that works and how

1485
01:02:56,190 --> 01:02:52,060
successful they were he also details

1486
01:02:59,790 --> 01:02:56,200
this ghs Tobruk says I didn't say this

1487
01:03:02,940 --> 01:02:59,800
he did he says we need to create these

1488
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:02,950
super soldiers and place them in every

1489
01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:05,710
department of US military so that down

1490
01:03:12,089 --> 01:03:08,500
the road we can have a hidden fifth

1491
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:12,099
column of these super soldiers to call

1492
01:03:18,750 --> 01:03:15,970
up if we need to that's in this book

1493
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:18,760
under weaponization he would have known

1494
01:03:22,530 --> 01:03:20,050
all he would have been at the very

1495
01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:22,540
forefront of MKULTRA this book was put

1496
01:03:29,339 --> 01:03:27,040
out in 1947 so this this psychiatry knew

1497
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:29,349
this stuff psychologists knew this stuff

1498
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:31,599
you know where he got it from from the

1499
01:03:36,510 --> 01:03:34,510
Nazis you know Russ this is powerful

1500
01:03:39,329 --> 01:03:36,520
stuff that you're bringing forward and I

1501
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:39,339
love when you reference the direct

1502
01:03:44,130 --> 01:03:41,410
connection there and I think it helps

1503
01:03:46,890 --> 01:03:44,140
people because you know Nazi is such a

1504
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:46,900
hard word it immediately discredits a

1505
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:49,130
lot of people just go okay not

1506
01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:51,650
I'm out of here but in this case as your

1507
01:03:54,970 --> 01:03:52,460
document

1508
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:54,980
you can't folks you just have to go and

1509
01:03:59,410 --> 01:03:57,680
follow the data and say why did this

1510
01:04:01,180 --> 01:03:59,420
happen you know why did these guys wind

1511
01:04:03,250 --> 01:04:01,190
up you're right people know project

1512
01:04:05,890 --> 01:04:03,260
paper why did that happen what was the

1513
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:05,900
source of it I would bring it for folks

1514
01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:09,530
who don't like that Anglin or more into

1515
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:11,900
the modern thing go watch the video from

1516
01:04:18,490 --> 01:04:15,050
Darren brown famous you came in to us

1517
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:18,500
atheist I mean very outwardly in a way

1518
01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:20,210
that I think is kind of ridiculous the

1519
01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:21,980
atheist just sound kind of silly to me

1520
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:23,780
at this point but he's an outspoken

1521
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:26,480
atheist he's a Mentalist but he shows

1522
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:30,770
you how to mind-control someone to set

1523
01:04:36,610 --> 01:04:34,640
him up to do sirhan sirhan Manchurian

1524
01:04:38,350 --> 01:04:36,620
Candidate thing he does the whole thing

1525
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:38,360
and the guy goes into a theater and he

1526
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:40,310
pulls a gun he doesn't know that the gun

1527
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:42,170
only has blanks in it but there it is

1528
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,450
there's the demonstration and again

1529
01:04:48,220 --> 01:04:46,160
secular this guy doesn't anything about

1530
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:48,230
it and if you go to the sirhan sirhan

1531
01:04:52,330 --> 01:04:50,690
sirhan cases I guess I'm old enough that

1532
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:52,340
I kind of remember it but a lot of

1533
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:55,010
people have forgotten it I mean this is

1534
01:05:01,990 --> 01:04:58,970
the murder of Robert F Kennedy and you

1535
01:05:05,770 --> 01:05:02,000
know in in LA when he's about to take

1536
01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:05,780
the nomination and there's eight bullets

1537
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:07,790
they pulled out of the wall and there's

1538
01:05:12,850 --> 01:05:10,310
only six bullets in Sirhan Sirhan's gun

1539
01:05:14,980 --> 01:05:12,860
and they go in when they get Sirhan

1540
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,990
Sirhan he's just as you're talking about

1541
01:05:17,710 --> 01:05:16,400
as I've heard you talk about maybe you

1542
01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:17,720
can bring us up to date on these

1543
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:19,670
modern-day shooters but it's the same

1544
01:05:23,290 --> 01:05:21,650
thing you look into his eyes and you

1545
01:05:25,330 --> 01:05:23,300
because something's not right here any

1546
01:05:26,530 --> 01:05:25,340
guy goes I don't know where I was I

1547
01:05:30,490 --> 01:05:26,540
don't know what happened there's this

1548
01:05:32,410 --> 01:05:30,500
complete memory erasure thing and when

1549
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:32,420
you look at the documents that were

1550
01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:34,810
forced out by the Canadian government on

1551
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:37,160
MKULTRA they go yeah that's where we're

1552
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:38,930
trying to do it basically erase people's

1553
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:41,810
brain and then it's very it's impossible

1554
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:43,730
to deny that they were doing the rest of

1555
01:05:50,590 --> 01:05:46,490
this stuff so oh man I can only imagine

1556
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,600
your frustration at two levels I mean we

1557
01:05:54,670 --> 01:05:52,160
haven't even again we've kept the

1558
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:54,680
spiritual side of this out of this

1559
01:06:00,100 --> 01:05:56,690
discussion and I think that that maybe

1560
01:06:01,710 --> 01:06:00,110
helps bring people along but maybe you

1561
01:06:04,220 --> 01:06:01,720
want to speak to either one of

1562
01:06:09,450 --> 01:06:04,230
those points that I raised in terms of

1563
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:09,460
how this is kind of controlled this

1564
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:11,470
information in terms of what we know and

1565
01:06:15,690 --> 01:06:13,450
why it turns people off what is your

1566
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:15,700
understanding of the spiritual component

1567
01:06:21,390 --> 01:06:18,370
of it and how do you make that fit into

1568
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:21,400
the larger problems that people have

1569
01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:22,930
with religion particularly with

1570
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:26,140
Christianity you know Christianity a lot

1571
01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:27,400
of people would say it would be the last

1572
01:06:32,730 --> 01:06:30,780
ones we'd want to turn to to try and

1573
01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:32,740
particularly the Catholic Church which

1574
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:35,350
is the original it is Christianity and

1575
01:06:40,770 --> 01:06:38,010
now it's understood to be systematically

1576
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:40,780
institutionally completely corrupted

1577
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:42,130
does it mean that there aren't good

1578
01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:45,720
people in there but as an institution

1579
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:50,230
boy oh boy I don't know yeah because

1580
01:06:53,850 --> 01:06:51,730
they're all yeah cuz like someone say

1581
01:06:55,050 --> 01:06:53,860
you keep backing up and and all the

1582
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:55,060
things you're bringing into it is

1583
01:06:58,890 --> 01:06:57,250
important because the facts need to be

1584
01:07:01,110 --> 01:06:58,900
there let me throw one thing out and

1585
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:01,120
here's why here this is what's tons law

1586
01:07:05,570 --> 01:07:03,370
enforcement even psychologists here's

1587
01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:05,580
what here's what even the psychs know

1588
01:07:11,340 --> 01:07:08,590
when you have a first generation MKULTRA

1589
01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:11,350
or you know sr you know person that says

1590
01:07:15,390 --> 01:07:13,300
they have multiple personalities and

1591
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:15,400
they've been diagnosed and they are and

1592
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:17,950
they have personalities here's the

1593
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:19,510
question I had to come up with why do

1594
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:21,250
all of them we've dealt with all the

1595
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:22,930
first generation ones who are now

1596
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:27,520
between 55 and 70 - it would all begin

1597
01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:29,680
it began their the the the development

1598
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:32,080
of splitting them began in the early 50s

1599
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:33,010
and they you know they're so they're

1600
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:34,960
born in like 50s and up from that point

1601
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:37,000
on so all of those victims by the

1602
01:07:39,330 --> 01:07:38,710
hundreds of thousands of them where do

1603
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:39,340
they come from

1604
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:42,370
who did this to them why do why do all

1605
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:45,250
of them Alex inside have a personality

1606
01:07:51,810 --> 01:07:48,690
that comes up that speaks fluent German

1607
01:07:54,090 --> 01:07:51,820
every single one of them every single

1608
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:54,100
one of the first generation all have

1609
01:07:58,410 --> 01:07:55,810
personalities and speak fluent German

1610
01:08:01,350 --> 01:07:58,420
many the second generation even down to

1611
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:01,360
the third generation 21 year olds they

1612
01:08:06,660 --> 01:08:04,410
also can do this so there's a reason why

1613
01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:06,670
that's why you take that you know it's

1614
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:08,560
kind of it's one thing to web and

1615
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:10,180
investigate the outside of everything

1616
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:12,280
and then attract where did it come from

1617
01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:14,620
who did this the grandfathers did this

1618
01:08:18,589 --> 01:08:15,660
these mothers did

1619
01:08:20,450 --> 01:08:18,599
for example if I have a 21 year old and

1620
01:08:23,089 --> 01:08:20,460
this is a case numerous cases we have

1621
01:08:26,410 --> 01:08:23,099
right now if I have an SR a 21 year old

1622
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:26,420
25 year old here's what I already know

1623
01:08:30,589 --> 01:08:29,040
probably the mother is moldable and the

1624
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:30,599
grandmothers moldable and the

1625
01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:32,130
grandmother and the grandfather came

1626
01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:34,859
from Germany we already know this is a

1627
01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:36,900
generational thing and backs up to the

1628
01:08:41,809 --> 01:08:39,150
Germans this is repeated over and over

1629
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:41,819
and over and over and over in cases so

1630
01:08:48,260 --> 01:08:45,420
you can get at the forensic investigate

1631
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:48,270
in side of this you can get at the you

1632
01:08:54,919 --> 01:08:50,480
know where it's coming from

1633
01:08:56,599 --> 01:08:54,929
who did this what the agenda is then we

1634
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:56,609
can ask that why did you why didn't you

1635
01:09:00,649 --> 01:08:58,770
knighted States military takes us in my

1636
01:09:02,209 --> 01:09:00,659
belief they've been given a Trojan horse

1637
01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:02,219
they didn't know they were given a gift

1638
01:09:06,499 --> 01:09:04,980
they thought the Nazi technology they

1639
01:09:08,059 --> 01:09:06,509
thought the Nazi enhancement they

1640
01:09:10,370 --> 01:09:08,069
thought the Nazi concept of super

1641
01:09:11,809 --> 01:09:10,380
soldier Sai warriors would be an

1642
01:09:14,990 --> 01:09:11,819
enhancement they didn't know it came

1643
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:15,000
with a lot of other stuff so that's a

1644
01:09:20,539 --> 01:09:17,730
set there's so there's there is a in my

1645
01:09:24,879 --> 01:09:20,549
view in my personal belief about this I

1646
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:24,889
believe our US military was infiltrated

1647
01:09:29,629 --> 01:09:27,270
purposely it's along the way from the

1648
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:29,639
end of the 40s early 50s and this is

1649
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:31,770
where monarch this is where modern-day

1650
01:09:35,899 --> 01:09:33,690
remote-viewing even came from and we can

1651
01:09:41,180 --> 01:09:35,909
get into that issue too because all all

1652
01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:41,190
of the sra multiple-personality victims

1653
01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:43,500
that we've dealt with have trained

1654
01:09:48,490 --> 01:09:46,670
remote viewer personalities all of them

1655
01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:48,500
where'd that come from

1656
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:54,150
what and and and even though many of the

1657
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:56,550
early remote viewers and this is

1658
01:10:00,680 --> 01:09:57,690
important because we've dealt with a lot

1659
01:10:02,959 --> 01:10:00,690
David Morehouse's direct individual we

1660
01:10:05,149 --> 01:10:02,969
dealt with we've in listened to for

1661
01:10:09,290 --> 01:10:05,159
years and years at Dame's mcmoneagle

1662
01:10:12,069 --> 01:10:09,300
monroe smith you can go on limb buchanan

1663
01:10:15,260 --> 01:10:12,079
and you go back to all of them and

1664
01:10:18,140 --> 01:10:15,270
though they say in a sense hardwired

1665
01:10:20,839 --> 01:10:18,150
wise there is a reality that we can do

1666
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,849
some of this stuff but edie beams has

1667
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:22,320
come out to acknowledge what we've been

1668
01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:24,090
screaming about for years and years and

1669
01:10:29,509 --> 01:10:26,940
years and names came out with it saitec

1670
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:29,519
came out with it they're now all

1671
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:32,489
acknowledging that the presence the way

1672
01:10:36,770 --> 01:10:34,050
they're able to remove you as they go

1673
01:10:38,959 --> 01:10:36,780
passive they connect to the Akashic

1674
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:38,969
records they connect to the Hall of

1675
01:10:44,029 --> 01:10:41,249
Records they connect to an outside

1676
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:44,039
source we've said that all along we said

1677
01:10:49,870 --> 01:10:45,659
it with the Edgar Mitchell and we're in

1678
01:10:53,870 --> 01:10:49,880
Roswell when when he was promoting homo

1679
01:10:56,779 --> 01:10:53,880
Nautica homo lumo the new development of

1680
01:11:00,020 --> 01:10:56,789
humanity there's more to remote viewing

1681
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:00,030
and it is an advantage if you could

1682
01:11:07,609 --> 01:11:03,360
Remote View where the sniper is like

1683
01:11:11,839 --> 01:11:07,619
when Lieutenant Colonel Shannon in the

1684
01:11:13,549 --> 01:11:11,849
first Earth battalion manual that the

1685
01:11:14,899 --> 01:11:13,559
Fort Bragg side warrior you brought to

1686
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:14,909
me it's now on the web you can get that

1687
01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:18,719
free on the web now so this manual was

1688
01:11:24,069 --> 01:11:21,179
to teach u.s. soldiers how did you how

1689
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:24,079
to be clairvoyant how to engage with

1690
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:28,260
telekinesis powers of how to use these

1691
01:11:32,989 --> 01:11:31,110
super abilities it's the super super

1692
01:11:35,660 --> 01:11:32,999
manual you know if people hear this

1693
01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:35,670
stuff and again I love if they're kind

1694
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:37,320
of freaked out oh this guy's off the

1695
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:39,360
wall now I don't go look it up I mean

1696
01:11:42,620 --> 01:11:41,070
they're directly talking about super

1697
01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:42,630
soldiers and yets

1698
01:11:47,959 --> 01:11:46,380
and they've they actually had many many

1699
01:11:50,180 --> 01:11:47,969
so you know many have been trained in

1700
01:11:52,009 --> 01:11:50,190
that so it's not it's lack of knowledge

1701
01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:52,019
that's why I'm saying back in the early

1702
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:53,670
80s Alex when we first got to engage

1703
01:11:58,939 --> 01:11:57,210
this I know what salvation is what real

1704
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:58,949
demons are that's me I know all that

1705
01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:00,360
stuff we dealt with that for years and

1706
01:12:03,859 --> 01:12:02,280
years and years and years but when it

1707
01:12:05,149 --> 01:12:03,869
came to the multiplicity thing when it

1708
01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:05,159
came to personalities that were

1709
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:07,199
programmed when it came to a federal

1710
01:12:11,149 --> 01:12:08,880
officers wife that we dealt with in a

1711
01:12:13,759 --> 01:12:11,159
Fort Bragg side warrior and and other

1712
01:12:15,979 --> 01:12:13,769
military individuals that came in most

1713
01:12:18,739 --> 01:12:15,989
all of them victims wanting out of this

1714
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:18,749
wanting freedom well we had to ask those

1715
01:12:23,959 --> 01:12:20,610
questions where did it come from

1716
01:12:27,049 --> 01:12:23,969
what's it connected to and there are

1717
01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:27,059
credible sources along the way that not

1718
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:29,460
just not just going way back to Project

1719
01:12:36,259 --> 01:12:32,820
Paperclip but more intricately to see

1720
01:12:37,819 --> 01:12:36,269
where that led down the road and so when

1721
01:12:43,129 --> 01:12:37,829
people say today well where did all

1722
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:43,139
these victims of mind control or the

1723
01:12:47,970 --> 01:12:45,760
where do they come from why do they keep

1724
01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:47,980
sir why have more and more we have more

1725
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:49,860
now than we did 30 years ago

1726
01:12:55,860 --> 01:12:54,130
it's still an active issue not only

1727
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:55,870
United States but in Canada Australia

1728
01:13:01,020 --> 01:12:58,690
New Zealand Scotland which I was just

1729
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,030
there last year for a ritual abuse

1730
01:13:06,990 --> 01:13:03,520
conference on this very subject England

1731
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:07,000
is saturated obviously in Germany it's

1732
01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:09,070
massively saturated and and there in the

1733
01:13:13,919 --> 01:13:11,310
Russians have took taking this into so

1734
01:13:15,899 --> 01:13:13,929
we can go back and just stop right there

1735
01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:15,909
and say well the Germans dated because

1736
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:16,840
they thought it would give them

1737
01:13:19,919 --> 01:13:18,310
advantage the Germans did it because

1738
01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:19,929
they thought they can create an enhanced

1739
01:13:25,740 --> 01:13:22,870
or an Augmented human or an Augmented

1740
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:25,750
soldier that's ultimately what they

1741
01:13:30,810 --> 01:13:28,570
thought they wanted an Augmented soldier

1742
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:30,820
and they used the terminology not us

1743
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:32,850
they did they used the terminology

1744
01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:36,730
god-man or a hybrid almost so you

1745
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:39,340
mentioned the ritual and Mojave Desert

1746
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:41,770
by Jack Parsons it's connected to the

1747
01:13:48,110 --> 01:13:45,370
crow lean so Jack Parsons the the

1748
01:13:51,570 --> 01:13:48,120
American rocket scientist

1749
01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:51,580
JPL scientist

1750
01:13:56,729 --> 01:13:53,830
here's a renowned scientist out of

1751
01:13:58,500 --> 01:13:56,739
Pasadena he's already known to be

1752
01:13:59,610 --> 01:13:58,510
intestate aided rituals dark things and

1753
01:14:01,709 --> 01:13:59,620
so forth of people around him they all

1754
01:14:05,790 --> 01:14:01,719
know that but he goes out to the Mojave

1755
01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:05,800
Desert not only does he do the Babylon

1756
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:09,880
working the Babylon and the guy who's

1757
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:13,210
there kind of playing a door whatever is

1758
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:17,290
l ron Hubbard got Scientology founders

1759
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,810
so yeah here in please continue with the

1760
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:22,000
story sure and so they're there and

1761
01:14:25,709 --> 01:14:23,770
whether anybody wants to believe this or

1762
01:14:27,810 --> 01:14:25,719
not they're doing a ritual in and as far

1763
01:14:29,879 --> 01:14:27,820
as criminality if there's a woman

1764
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:29,889
involved in a sex ritual that she's

1765
01:14:32,879 --> 01:14:31,449
compliant with and they're doing a

1766
01:14:33,959 --> 01:14:32,889
ritual and they're they're doing any

1767
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:33,969
mumbo-jumbo

1768
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:35,770
who law enforcement doesn't care about

1769
01:14:43,050 --> 01:14:40,690
that so that ritual was not a in a sense

1770
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:43,060
of a criminal thing so nobody in law

1771
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:44,710
enforcement could come and say stop this

1772
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:47,170
so but the ritual what was the ritual

1773
01:14:51,930 --> 01:14:49,449
all about the ritual was all about

1774
01:14:54,209 --> 01:14:51,940
Aleister Crowley's moonchild it was all

1775
01:14:56,620 --> 01:14:54,219
about the the possibility they believed

1776
01:14:58,750 --> 01:14:56,630
that in the inciting and the

1777
01:15:00,520 --> 01:14:58,760
summoning now they believe that there

1778
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,530
was the big entity the [\h__\h] of Babylon

1779
01:15:05,979 --> 01:15:03,679
the the the entity that could come and

1780
01:15:08,260 --> 01:15:05,989
this entity could come in the context of

1781
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:08,270
the ritual the sex which will involve a

1782
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,310
supernatural charging of conception that

1783
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:16,880
in the in the act of that sexuality and

1784
01:15:24,750 --> 01:15:20,110
in the actual moment of conception that

1785
01:15:28,689 --> 01:15:24,760
non-human presence could be spliced in

1786
01:15:32,910 --> 01:15:28,699
to augment the new being and the new

1787
01:15:36,430 --> 01:15:32,920
being would be a hybrid a human

1788
01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:36,440
non-human mix and it's so it's

1789
01:15:41,950 --> 01:15:38,870
Antichrist I mean they it was the

1790
01:15:43,810 --> 01:15:41,960
Antichrist specifically according again

1791
01:15:45,129 --> 01:15:43,820
to their beliefs whether they believe

1792
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:45,139
them or not that was what they were

1793
01:15:49,870 --> 01:15:46,610
summoning through the [\h__\h] of Babylon

1794
01:15:51,490 --> 01:15:49,880
and like I said folks it they will have

1795
01:15:53,140 --> 01:15:51,500
already heard people as in the show will

1796
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:53,150
have already heard dr. Hugh Urban from

1797
01:15:57,939 --> 01:15:55,460
Ohio State University who doesn't really

1798
01:15:59,310 --> 01:15:57,949
have any skin in the game he's just

1799
01:16:02,890 --> 01:15:59,320
saying this is the history of silent

1800
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:02,900
Scientology this is what we know so yeah

1801
01:16:06,939 --> 01:16:05,600
that's that's pretty stunning and this

1802
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,949
is why it's of interest to me I'll just

1803
01:16:10,810 --> 01:16:08,480
I'll just release it real quick on a

1804
01:16:13,780 --> 01:16:10,820
biblical side and a biblical prophetic

1805
01:16:15,820 --> 01:16:13,790
side in the in the the concept of what

1806
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:15,830
we'll see if seems real what is he going

1807
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:18,170
to do so just on that whole side of the

1808
01:16:22,660 --> 01:16:19,520
fence here's here's what I believe about

1809
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:22,670
the so-called Antichrist he is

1810
01:16:27,879 --> 01:16:25,760
counterfeit to the real incarnation in

1811
01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:27,889
the incarnation of God

1812
01:16:32,500 --> 01:16:29,630
you know the Bible picture is God

1813
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:32,510
Almighty causes the conception in a in a

1814
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:35,120
woman marry that's bloodline genetically

1815
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:37,610
all the way back to Adam so a real pure

1816
01:16:42,189 --> 01:16:39,710
human being so you have that the moment

1817
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:42,199
of conception something miraculous

1818
01:16:47,530 --> 01:16:45,170
occurs and you have in the biblical

1819
01:16:50,379 --> 01:16:47,540
picture the god man God in human flesh

1820
01:16:53,410 --> 01:16:50,389
the law goes becomes human flesh so

1821
01:16:55,689 --> 01:16:53,420
that's just a biblical picture now let's

1822
01:16:58,450 --> 01:16:55,699
go to the satanic side and they want to

1823
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,460
bring in Antichrist the Greek word onto

1824
01:17:03,689 --> 01:17:00,800
Christian meaning and instead of opposed

1825
01:17:07,810 --> 01:17:03,699
to but also instead of the real Christ

1826
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:07,820
on to Christ how is he going to come

1827
01:17:10,890 --> 01:17:08,150
about

1828
01:17:14,050 --> 01:17:10,900
now here's what I believe and we know

1829
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:14,060
we know over the years Alex and this is

1830
01:17:18,490 --> 01:17:15,409
where we getting into the spiritual side

1831
01:17:20,649 --> 01:17:18,500
of it I guess all those ritual things

1832
01:17:22,899 --> 01:17:20,659
and manuals that we confiscated all the

1833
01:17:25,090 --> 01:17:22,909
discussions with with them with those

1834
01:17:29,410 --> 01:17:25,100
who knew how to summon and explained in

1835
01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:29,420
detail these kind of rituals whether we

1836
01:17:35,979 --> 01:17:30,860
want to believe this or not here's what

1837
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:35,989
they say the reason that in the creation

1838
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:38,570
of multiple personality disorder which

1839
01:17:44,859 --> 01:17:41,570
is that's just a secular term if we want

1840
01:17:48,970 --> 01:17:44,869
to use this the Luciferian terminology

1841
01:17:51,729 --> 01:17:48,980
or Aleister Crowley's or Jack Parsons a

1842
01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:51,739
concept they were creating Babylon

1843
01:17:58,750 --> 01:17:56,510
working babies they were wanting to see

1844
01:18:00,700 --> 01:17:58,760
their believe that all these s Ras all

1845
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:00,710
over the planet right now our Babylon

1846
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:03,530
working babies they are the attempt to

1847
01:18:09,550 --> 01:18:06,050
go backwards to recreate and bring about

1848
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:09,560
a splicing in and an altered human if

1849
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:13,010
not a direct hybrid human that's what

1850
01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:16,850
the that's what the babylon working was

1851
01:18:23,459 --> 01:18:19,580
in the mojave desert that's what the

1852
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:23,469
actual rituals done in order to select

1853
01:18:30,970 --> 01:18:29,170
cost conception and produce an SR a

1854
01:18:34,899 --> 01:18:30,980
split personality

1855
01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:34,909
mind control that's that where it stops

1856
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:36,980
whether we believe it or not they

1857
01:18:41,770 --> 01:18:39,710
believe they have possibly altered DNA

1858
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:41,780
or spliced in DNA

1859
01:18:47,770 --> 01:18:44,449
just like geneticists believe they can

1860
01:18:49,959 --> 01:18:47,780
take a gene from a panther that enables

1861
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:49,969
it to see at night splice it into a

1862
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:53,330
soldier's DNA and the soldier being able

1863
01:18:57,939 --> 01:18:55,310
to see you know the studies on the frog

1864
01:19:00,399 --> 01:18:57,949
that can grow up glow you take the the

1865
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,409
the gene from the from the the firefly

1866
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and you put it into the Frog and now the

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Frog with that gene-spliced end now that

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frog can glow there's science behind

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this there's physics behind this there's

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physics concerning the Incarnation

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there's physics concerning the the what

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do you want to call the counter an

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incarnation of the Antichrist

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not only has Crowley tried not only

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Jack Parsons tried but I I think that I

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was at the 2045 meeting in Lincoln Plaza

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New York when Dmitry Itskov the Russian

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billionaire Google's head guy reycarts

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while all the Genesis I was at that

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meeting of the transhumanists did you

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know that the transhumanists all believe

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in a year they're trying to develop

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immortality to wipe out death on that

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stained stage with the geneticists

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scientists inventors with gene splicers

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with Ray Kurzweil and and all the rest

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of them they brought in Russian cosmesis

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who put on the screens the big screens

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up that we saw in the stage this is what

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they said it's not what we said the

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Russian cosmos ed that the ancient gods

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of the skies are guiding the modern day

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inventors and scientists and guiding

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them to help bring about immortality for

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man because the ancient gods desire a

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return of the god net so the motive

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there's motivation even in the deep

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science of transhumanism there's

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elements of what we saw in Nazism in the

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1939 1940 development of layman's war

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you know that's that's incredible and I

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have confirmation that we did a little

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show on the whole CERN ritual you know

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the Large Hadron Collider I'm in there

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yeah and you know the ritual that they

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performed at the opening of that it blew

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people away and people like why are we

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doing all these pagan rituals that have

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all this these entities that we're

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bringing in what is the connection there

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and there's something deeper coming on

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you've been incredibly generous with

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your time you mentioned in the email

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that we might have another chat there's

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a lot more to talk about I'd love to

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talk to you about near-death experience

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because I think that plays into this and

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in particular so there's some crossover

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with people like Joseph McGonagall

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psychics by number zero zero one who has

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a near-death experience

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and when he shows up at Stanford

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Research Institute lo and behold they

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pull the Raymond moody book out of his

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file

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Raymond moody being the guy who coined

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the term your death experience there's a

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number of people who've had a near-death

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experience who see that as a Christian

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experience I have a couple of them up

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here on the on the screen if you're

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watching this on YouTube but there's a

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lot to process there but I'm not sure we

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could get to all of it and do it in a

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way that really does it justice so will

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you come back and have another talk

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about some of that stuff Alex you're fun

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to talk with I'm loved we've only

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scratched the surface of this content

1940
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and and again we can bring out track the

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01:22:28,989 --> 01:22:27,289
evidences evidences evidences and then

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we can get to the is there a spiritual

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01:22:33,489 --> 01:22:31,489
backdrop is there a spiritual motivation

1944
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behind all this and what does it

1945
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ultimately lead you we needed that also

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but I would love to come back and I

1947
01:22:42,850 --> 01:22:39,800
appreciate you having me on okay that's

1948
01:22:45,729 --> 01:22:42,860
great Russ tell people more about what

1949
01:22:47,890 --> 01:22:45,739
they can do you produce a tremendous

1950
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amount of content very high quality

1951
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,630
content you're doing real investigations

1952
01:22:55,419 --> 01:22:52,159
and you're talking about those

1953
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:55,429
investigations tell people how they can

1954
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:57,050
follow your work and learn more about

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01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:57,920
what you're doing

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sure well the main website we have is

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shatter the darkness dotnet and there's

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01:23:07,180 --> 01:23:05,780
no question there's a it's a Christian

1959
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:07,190
backdrop I have no question about Who I

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01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:10,610
am but I'm you don't understand me I'll

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talk with anybody any place anywhere

1962
01:23:16,540 --> 01:23:14,840
anytime and we're engaged with all this

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01:23:18,189 --> 01:23:16,550
information so we put out a lot of

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01:23:20,140 --> 01:23:18,199
information I wrote a six hundred seven

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01:23:22,689 --> 01:23:20,150
page book on the subject matter that

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deals with the the the factors were

1967
01:23:25,029 --> 01:23:23,809
talking about but it deals from the

1968
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:25,039
spiritual side of it called the black

1969
01:23:30,819 --> 01:23:27,710
awakening and that term came off the

1970
01:23:32,259 --> 01:23:30,829
lips of a four-track side warrior they

1971
01:23:34,089 --> 01:23:32,269
ripped my shirt open to see if I was

1972
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:34,099
wired that if I was recording them and

1973
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:37,210
they said you have no idea what's coming

1974
01:23:42,129 --> 01:23:39,110
you have no idea what's going to happen

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to the United States we have no idea of

1976
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:46,400
the undercurrent and the coming chaos so

1977
01:23:50,740 --> 01:23:49,249
part of the I put that book I put that

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term their purpose

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to discuss you know why our if if

1980
01:24:01,630 --> 01:23:57,830
there's really worldwide over fifty

1981
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:01,640
million of them why are they here who

1982
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:03,650
created them what would we know what the

1983
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:05,450
Nazis wanted but right now modern-day

1984
01:24:10,510 --> 01:24:07,730
who why does it who wants to use them

1985
01:24:16,270 --> 01:24:10,520
and so we that has to be addressed and

1986
01:24:18,490 --> 01:24:16,280
looked into so WWE chatter the darkness

1987
01:24:20,140 --> 01:24:18,500
got net that's the main site it'll give

1988
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,150
you a tons of content like you said

1989
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hours and hours of subjects we touch on

1990
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all of these things and and we will be

1991
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glad and try to respond to anybody that

1992
01:24:33,580 --> 01:24:31,640
connects with us well fantastic I'm

1993
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super impressed at your ability

1994
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:37,150
like you said Russ the Anytime Anywhere

1995
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:42,560
thing impresses me to no end because the

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number of people who say they can do

1997
01:24:50,740 --> 01:24:48,310
that and then can't do that can't handle

1998
01:24:53,050 --> 01:24:50,750
the questions that people really have

1999
01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:53,060
because they're outside of their grid as

2000
01:24:57,820 --> 01:24:55,100
you say or their worldview and you

2001
01:24:59,740 --> 01:24:57,830
certainly stand up to that you very

2002
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,750
impressed with the way you handled all

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01:25:03,010 --> 01:25:01,280
the questioning and I look forward to

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talking you again we'll have a great

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01:25:07,870 --> 01:25:05,540
follow-on conversation so thanks so much

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01:25:11,890 --> 01:25:07,880
Russ bessel thank you blessings thank

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01:25:14,650 --> 01:25:11,900
you bye-bye thanks again to russ dizdar

2008
01:25:16,750 --> 01:25:14,660
for joining me today on skeptic oh the

2009
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:16,760
one question I'd have to tee up from

2010
01:25:23,470 --> 01:25:21,170
this interview is Nazis really Nazis

2011
01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:23,480
you're gonna go there haven't I always

2012
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said whoever says Nazis first loses I

2013
01:25:31,690 --> 01:25:30,350
don't know I said it in the interview

2014
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I'll say it again I'm super impressed

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with this guy I don't care about the

2016
01:25:40,740 --> 01:25:37,480
Christian evangelical kind of stuff

2017
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:40,750
somebody's got to grab the reality of

2018
01:25:47,290 --> 01:25:44,690
these extended consciousness realm and

2019
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:47,300
try and tackle it and I don't have to

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agree with his entire overlay as we kept

2021
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:53,870
saying but we will go back and talk to

2022
01:26:00,490 --> 01:25:56,690
him again about that as well to say that

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01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:00,500
at least he's confronting some of the

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01:26:03,940 --> 01:26:03,530
data really interested to see what some

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:03,950
of you

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01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:06,410
think about this show of course my

2027
01:26:10,450 --> 01:26:08,090
favorite place to do that to connect

2028
01:26:12,850 --> 01:26:10,460
with you is the skeptical forum I'm

2029
01:26:16,270 --> 01:26:12,860
hoping we'll get some good conversation

2030
01:26:17,980 --> 01:26:16,280
going over there about that and be sure

2031
01:26:20,110 --> 01:26:17,990
to check out the skeptical website where

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01:26:22,870 --> 01:26:20,120
you can get all these shows for free for

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01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:22,880
download no paywall no ads how do we do

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01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:25,430
it it's really not that expensive to run

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01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:27,440
a podcast and I like sharing all this

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01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:30,710
stuff with you and with other folks who

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01:26:34,420 --> 01:26:32,630
don't know about it yet who you're gonna

2038
01:26:34,690 --> 01:26:34,430
go and tell them they should listen to

2039
01:26:37,870 --> 01:26:34,700
this

2040
01:26:39,460 --> 01:26:37,880
only if they should and we have a lot of

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01:26:41,820 --> 01:26:39,470
them up there you can see some on the

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01:26:46,380 --> 01:26:41,830
screen but you already know there's over

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350 at this point but please check out

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01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:49,850
more episodes and share them as you will

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01:26:55,690 --> 01:26:52,370
I got some good ones coming up stay with

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me for all of that until next time take